Craig Johnstone, Director of Resources, Plans and Policy and Tim Geithner, Assistant Secretary for International Affairs
Special Briefing on the International Affairs Activities Budget
Washington, DC, February 2, 1998


AMBASSADOR JOHNSTONE: Thank you very much, Jim. I'm here sporting two buttons today. The one which was given out this morning at the White House, representing the fact that this is the first budget that we have submitted in 30 years that has no addition to the deficit; hence the big zero. But I don't want to confuse you, but on the other side there's one that says 1 percent, which is a reiteration of the fact that we cost only 1 percent of the federal budget for all the things that we get done in international affairs.

I wanted to start today by saying, first and foremost, that Secretary Albright and I worked last week to prepare her to give the opening statement here; and I know that she would have wanted to be here if she could. But alas, as you know, the items - the issues that she's working on in the Gulf have captured her attention today.

This international affairs budget serves seven national interests. I'll turn to these first. Many of you have been briefed on the international affairs strategic plan, and you will recognize the seven interests that come out of this plan. There are seven things that we in the Department of State are trying to get done on behalf of the American people -- the Department of State and the International Affairs agencies as a whole.

The first, to protect our national security - and of course, the Secretary is in the Gulf right now, working on aspects of national security that deal with both regional stability as well as the elimination of weapons of mass destruction.

The second, to protect the economic prosperity of the American people; to help to promote exports around the world; to try and service our economic interests by supporting the American business community, by essentially staffing the Americas desk in the Department of State, but also through the extraordinary efforts that are done by Ex-Im Bank, OPIC, TDA to promote American exports around the world and the efforts of AID to grow foreign markets.

Thirdly, the protection of American citizens and US borders - over a million times a year, people call upon embassies overseas for services. Our presence worldwide helps to serve those Americans who are traveling around the world. Plus, in addition, we also protect US borders in the sense that we monitor and regulate the flow of people to and from this country. The number of foreign visitors that we have visiting the United States each year goes up geometrically. This is a growing workload, a growing burden and a growing responsibility for the State Department.

Fourthly, try to protect Americans from international crime, narcotics trafficking and terrorism - a growing area of concern. There was a time when international crime did not impinge directly on the lives of Americans in the way that it does today. This is an area of growing interest, and an area of growing funding within the budget, as well. We'll get back to that in a second.

Fifth, we promote democracy and human rights as being core values of ours; therefore, we consider the promotion of these values to be in the national interest. Sixth humanitarian response - we, in keeping with our values, and we provide humanitarian assistance to victims of crises and disasters around the world, provide humanitarian assistance to the poor wherever we find them in the world. Finally, seventh, we protect American interests on a new range of global issues - particularly those dealing with the environment, with population and with the spread of contagious diseases around the world.

In each of these areas, International Affairs programs are designed to try and help Americans. The emphasis here is on serving Americans in each of these seven areas. Now, I want to show you a breakdown of the costs in this International Affairs Budget of the programs that service these national interests. This is broken down by program type, not necessarily by national interest.

Let me explain very quickly that it's possible to serve an American national interest of immigration, for example, by bolstering the economies of neighboring countries. This chart is not designed to show you the breakdown by national interests, as much as by program type. So economic programs, security programs, American citizen programs, law enforcement, democracy and human rights are categorized in this budget. You'll see the general breakdown here of these programs in millions of dollars starting with the largest being the security programs at $5.7 billion, adding up to the total budget request of $20.150 billion.

Let me turn now very quickly to the appropriation line items. Our budget request this year is $20.15 billion, as compared to an appropriated level this past year of $19.03 billion - so an increase of about $1 billion in this year's request versus last year's appropriation level. That, in turn, is higher than the $18.2 billion which we received in 1997. So we are essentially asking for the second year of increase in International Affairs funding; a modest increase, though, let me hasten to add, this is the fifth time that I have been before the press, presenting a budget. The first time, if I look at it in 1998 dollars, I presented to you a budget that was at $23 billion. So it gives you some sense of the perspective of how far the budget got cut back, and the very slow and incremental increase that we are seeking.

We have tried to find the balance between being responsible and maintaining American global leadership, and also meeting the requirements of the balanced budget. We have, this year, I think, achieved success in that area. We have a good, solid budget request at $20.15 billion that we think protects American interests, protects American leadership around the world in all of the areas that I showed you; but which also makes its own contribution to a balanced budget.

I will leave it for you-I think you all have copies of the highlights - to go through the individual accounts. I'm not going to go through every account here with you. I thought I might, instead, tell you what's new about this budget.

First of all, it contains a number of new programs for Africa. The President's Partnership for Economic Growth and Opportunity includes $35 million in debt programs, which are carried under the special debt relief line here. You'll see the big increase from $27 million to $72 million. Well, $35 million of that increase is for Africa, and is part of the President's Partnership for Economic Growth and Opportunity. In addition to that, $30 million of Development Assistance Funds in the AID Development Assistance line here have also been designated for that Africa initiative.

Beyond that, the Secretary announced a Great Lakes initiative, focused on Rwanda and Burundi, during her visit to Africa. That is being funded mostly by ESF, at $30 million. That is included within the Economic Support line here for the ESF account at $30 million. This is a program that involves also looking at trying to enhance trade and investment opportunities in Africa, and taking a second look at our GSP preference structures, as it pertains to certain African countries.

There's an education and development program, which we are in the process of creating, that will be taken out of existing resources contained in this budget, that will come in at about $76 million. It will use a mix of Development Assistance, PL-480 funds, Economic Support Funds, Peace Corps and USIA funds.

In addition to the Africa programs, we'll have a $20 million Development Assistance program for a Summit of the Americas follow-up. This will essentially fund micro-finance projects in Latin America. It will have a strong emphasis on educational programs in Latin America, and also promote free trade and investment in the region.

The Office of Transition Initiatives is being increased from $30 million to $45 million. This is an office of AID, and it's funded out of the Disaster Assistance Account. International Disaster Assistance has gone from $190 million to $205 million. That $15 million is for the Office of Transition Initiatives. This is a program to try and help countries that are moving out of anarchy and civil strife, and put them on the road to sustainable development.

A big increase in this budget is an increase that we are requesting for the Newly Independent States of the former Soviet Union. We are requesting $925 million versus an appropriation of $770 million this past year. Now, this past year we did request $900 million. This continues the Partnership for Freedom initiative within the NIS. This is an initiative to try and stimulate private sector investment in the NIS countries as part of our effort to try and help them in their transition to market democracy.

This year we will fund $10 million of Economic Support Funds for a fund to aid the victims of the Holocaust. This is a $24 million initiative. We have funding of $4 million of it in 1998. We'll be funding $10 million each in 1999 and the year 2000. This is a multilateral effort. A number of countries are contributing to this fund, and the purpose of it is to help those people who - the poor people -- who were affected by the Holocaust, and to provide some relief for them.

We will, in Economic Support Funds, be seeking a substantial increase from $70 million to $140 million for Haiti. Our efforts in Haiti are designed to try and build that economy and begin the process of moving it to self-sustainability. We don't feel we can do that at the current levels of funding -- the $70-million level that we have been capped at by the Congress. We're going to seek an effort to try and get that cap removed and to get the levels up to $140 million in Fiscal 1999.

Included in this budget also is a $50-million de-mining initiative within the NADR account. That is a Nonproliferation, Anti-terrorism, De-mining and Related programs account here. That will be a $50 million program, up from $20 million in Fiscal 1998.

Ex-Im Bank. There has been a substantial increase in demand for Ex-Im Bank credits. That demand was recognized by the Congress that appropriated us $696 million in 1998, more than we had actually requested. We recognize that demand and have increased the Ex-Im Bank funding for Fiscal 1999 to $824 million, to be able to substantially meet the new requirements for Ex-Im Bank lending around the world.

The Peace Corps initiative, to raise the total Peace Corps enrollment to 10,000 people by the year 2000, is funded also in this budget. This budget will fund the increment from 6,500 - the current level of the Peace Corps - to 8,500 people. The next increment would be funded in next year's budget.

A change on previous years -- we have, in the refugee account, sought exactly the same amount of money as we have always sought in refugee assistance, within the regular refugee account, the Migration Refugee Assistance Account, but the ERMA contingency fund, the Emergency Refugee Migration Account number, being sought this year is $20 million. We have accumulated $120 million in the ERMA account. We didn't feel that we needed to ask for the normal full $50 million replenishment. So, that program has been cut back somewhat this year, because we have adequate reserves in the ERMA account.

We are requesting a substantial increase, from $231 million to $275 million, to try and fight international narcotics. I'd like to remind you that this is a very, very small percentage of the total amount that we spend on narcotics-fighting as a country, on governmental programs. It comes to about 3 percent of the total, in fact, and represents extremely cost-effective utilization of funds in the war against narcotics.

We have experienced some very real results in this program over the course of the last two years. I know that cultivation in Peru, for example, and the production out of Peru is down by 40 percent, largely as a result of this program's activities. We intend to follow up on those activities, particularly in Latin America and the Andean countries, by augmenting this program up to $275 million.

On the Commerce-Justice-State side of the budget, the State Department operations account shows a 4.8 percent increase. That increase will fund a very modest increase in personnel -- some 71 people -- but more importantly, will fund some of the basic requirements that we have for information systems, our perennial battle to try and get adequate funding so that we end up being in the 20th century in information systems.

We are also funding, on the State Department operating side, in terms of foreign missions activities, two major programs. There will be $200 million for China and $50 million for Berlin. These are for new embassy structures in both China and Berlin. I don't think anybody in this room can have been unaware of the extent to which our embassy in China has fallen on hard times, if it ever was in good times, and there is a crying need for a new facility. This request would fund that new facility.

Finally, we have, under the Asia Foundation, new programs that would fund rule-of-law programs in Asia, as a whole, and in China, in particular.

So that, in essence, is what it is that we have in the budget. Let me highlight a couple of other items that are also taking place at the same time that the budget goes forward to the Congress. There will be supplemental requests which will total, for arrearages to international organizations, including the United Nations, $1.021 billion ($921 million is a supplemental appropriation and authorization of $100 million already appropriated).

There are no United Nations arrearages in this budget package, as you see it here or as you see it in the table that you have in your handout. There are multilateral development bank arrearages in this overall multilateral development bank number. That is, there are $502 million of arrearages in that MDB line. To reiterate, there are no international organization arrearages; there are MDB arrearages in the budget request itself. In addition to the budget request, we're going to have $1.021 billion requested in the form of a supplemental.

Two other items that will be also requested in the form of a supplemental, one is the IMF quota increase at $14.5 billion. That comes with no outlays. This is a no-outlay account, only budget authority. And, a $3.5-billion New Arrangements to Borrow facility is also being requested in the form of a supplemental appropriation.

So with that, I think I'd like to turn it over to my colleague, Assistant Secretary Geithner from the Department of Treasury, to talk about those two supplementals.

Tim.

ASSISTANT SECRETARY GEITHNER: Thanks. I'm here to give you just a few of the facts on the President's request relating to the International Monetary Fund. This is a moment of some delicacy in the international financial system, and because of the serious potential risks we see to US interests in this unfolding crisis, the President has asked the Congress today to authorize US participation in the new arrangements to borrow and in the pending increase in IMF quotas, roughly, 3.4 -- I think 3.5, depending on the exchange rate, for the new arrangements to borrow.

The new arrangements to borrow is an emergency fund, like a reserve tank, that's available to the IMF in the event of serious threats to the stability of the international financial system. This is a fund that we proposed establishing first in 1995, after the initial onset of the Mexican financial crisis.

The 14.5 is for the IMF quota increase, which is the normal periodic increase in the IMF's regular standing - some call it its regular capital base. These resources are both used to provide temporary financial assistance in support of programs of economic reform, to help restore financial stability in these countries, to support policies that promote stronger, more stable exchange rates, and that encourage a quick return to growth.

These are large and bracing numbers, but they entail, as Craig said, no budget outlay. They don't come at the expense of other programs and priorities. And they are provided for in the adjustments to the caps, to the caps on budget authority that were negotiated and built into last year's budget agreement.

These entail no outlays because the IMF acts essentially as a credit union. We provide a credit line to the International Monetary Fund, and when the IMF draws on that credit line, we get a liquid interest-bearing deposit in the IMF, backed by its substantial gold reserves. And for that reason, our participation in the IMF has always been or has long been treated as an exchange of assets, with no outlay.

We submitted these as supplemental requests because we feel it's important to move forward quickly to ensure that the IMF has the resources necessary to deal with any spread or intensification of the current crisis, and we're in the process of consulting with the congressional leadership and all the relevant committees on how best to move forward to ensure the US can participate in both the NAB and the quota increase.

It's important to recognize that neither of these will happen without us. The NAB will not be established without the United States, and the quotas will not be increased without the United States. And that's one reason we think it's prudent to try and move forward as quickly as possible to get these done.

Thank you.

AMBASSADOR JOHNSTONE: I'll be glad to take your questions.

QUESTION: I was going to ask the Assistant Secretary how serious the IMF cash flow situation is.

ASSISTANT SECRETARY GEITHNER: The IMF has a significant but substantially depleted cushion now available to deal with financial crises. I'm happy to walk through the numbers separately with you, if you like. But we think there's been such a substantial depletion of this resource, and we're at a moment of such uncertainty in the system as a whole that we really think the prudent thing to do is try and move forward quickly to expand those normal resources. But if you want to talk separately about the specific numbers, I'm happy to do so.

QUESTION: Does this budget assume that ACDA and USAID will not be voted into State?

AMBASSADOR JOHNSTONE: It was necessary, in this budget request, to break them out separately, because the legislation that would cause them to be integrated hasn't been passed yet. Had the legislation passed, we would not have broken out separately the ACDA request. We still would have separated USIA, because the plan isn't to integrate USIA for another year yet. So as soon as the legislation is passed, you'll start seeing integrated budgets.

QUESTION: Craig, I wanted to ask you two questions quickly. Would you run those Africa numbers again, please? And then would you explain why KEDO needs $10 million in supplemental debt service money, when it's an organization that just got started?

AMBASSADOR JOHNSTONE: I'll be glad to run the Africa numbers for you while I think of the answer to the other question.

(Laughter.)

We may take a long time on Africa here.

No, the African numbers - the Partnership for Economic Growth and Opportunity, $35 million in debt relief, specifically targeted at Africa. I should point out that the special debt relief line here of $72 million also includes $37 million under the Paris Club debt relief program for the poorest countries. And some of those are African countries, as well, but there's a special $35 million debt relief line for Africa, as part of this initiative, as well as Development Assistance Funds of $30 million.

The Great Lakes initiative is Economic Support Funds targeted at the Great Lakes region, specifically trying to bring stability to an area that has chronic instability and trying to move them into having functioning judicial systems. I would say in the first instance, the emphasis of the program is on justice within the region, and that the program will use some $25 million to $30 million of ESF. It's a $30 million program. We haven't figured out the exact components. It depends upon exactly what the program content ends up being at the end of the day.

Now, back to your question on KEDO, though. We are seeking this year $35 million for KEDO. That's not out of keeping with what we have been saying all along KEDO would require. So I'll be glad to get further into it. Maybe we should talk off-line.

QUESTION: Well, there's a note in here that talks about a $10 million add-on for debt.

AMBASSADOR JOHNSTONE: For debt.

QUESTION: For debt. I mean, what do we owe them money for?

AMBASSADOR JOHNSTONE: Well, KEDO funds the heavy fuel oil shipments to North Korea as a part of the agreement, and has been funding them on the basis of lines of credit, and the debt relates to that.

QUESTION: I have two questions. One is, if you could say something more about the new fund for Holocaust victims. Is this for individuals, organizations, including Americans? How is that going to work?

AMBASSADOR JOHNSTONE: No nationality is being excluded from participation in the fund, but let me just say that we intend that these funds would be administered and distributed through non-governmental organizations; that is to say, there will not be direct applicants for the funds, but rather the funds will be distributed through a list of NGOs that has been agreed between the various contributing nations, and they will be the ones that will administer it.

It is my understanding that the majority of poor victims of the Holocaust are to be found in Central and Eastern Europe today. I would expect that they would be the primary beneficiaries of the program.

QUESTION: My second question deals with Central and Eastern Europe and the former communist countries. In the past, the budget allocations, to some degree, reflected political motives or considerations -- countries that had authoritarian or totalitarian regimes, like Belarus, for instance, got their aid cut. And I notice in the detail here that Serbia, Slovakia, Belarus, all countries that have not fully implemented or even tried to implement economic and democratic reforms get substantial increases. So could you explain a little bit the thinking that's gone into this?

AMBASSADOR JOHNSTONE: Well, I think that when you're putting together a budget request, you are putting together a budget request on your expectation and hopes for the future. It doesn't always turn out that we allocate funds exactly the way that they have been requested.

We're requesting funds for Fiscal 1999 at this stage, and I think the expectation is that substantial progress will have been made in trying to meet the kind of reforms that we're trying to advance. We're essentially putting on the table the fact that we're prepared to assist. If reforms are not met, then we, of course, reserve the right to change allocations of funds later on.

QUESTION: For the first time since the 1940s, you canceled request for foreign military aid or foreign military financing to both Greece and Turkey. I believe that this financing or military aid or military financing is a part of both countries' some kind of defense agreement. Can we trust that the canceling of this request is changing the both countries' defense agreement?

AMBASSADOR JOHNSTONE: Not probably in the sense that you intend the question, I suspect. I think you can assume that this represents the maturing of our relationship; that there is not the need for the same levels of assistance that we have had in the past, in order for these countries to continue to play active roles in NATO. We have had consultations with the countries. We're all in agreement on the fact that the time to graduate has come, and this is the first year of graduation. So I think it's a very mature, responsible relationship that we have with these countries. I think the fact that they have now graduated away from an assistance relationship to be much more like all of the other NATO members is a representation of that.

QUESTION: Mr. Ambassador, it appears, roughly, according to my calculations, that you're asking for about a little over 5 percent in your increase. Could you translate that to real growth, minus inflation? And what is this supplemental about again? I didn't catch that. That was going to pay UN debts?

AMBASSADOR JOHNSTONE: We are substantially - let me take the second question - all these questions seem to have two different parts. The second part of your question - we owe substantial sums of money to the United Nations by virtue of not having paid all of our assessments.

We are intending to pay $1.021 billion of these arrearages to the United Nations and to other international organizations through the supplemental appropriation route.

You'll bear in mind that we made a similar request last year, and that at the end of the year, those funds were not appropriated by the Congress. They were held hostage to the whole population issue. This is essentially a renewal of that request.

QUESTION: And then the other part was, what's your real growth in this budget?

AMBASSADOR JOHNSTONE: A difficult question. The domestic deflator runs around 2 percent; the international deflator, closer to the 4 percent to 5 percent range. Our budget is roughly half and half, so you'd have to take a mid-line number, so that of your 5 percent increase, then probably 1.5 percent of it represents real growth. That's about as crude as you can get in terms of analysis.

QUESTION: In terms of the increased funding you've requested for arrears for multilateral development banks, I see you have $300 million down for the global environmental facility, which has been incredibly unpopular on the Hill. How do you expect to get anywhere near that amount of money? They haven't funded the $100 million you've had in previous years.

AMBASSADOR JOHNSTONE: I think the discussions in Kyoto and the dialogue that we've had domestically have shed a lot of light on the problems that we face on global climate change.

The GEF is one of the principal mechanisms that we have to address that issue. Let me correct your numbers a little bit. We're requesting $300 million for the GEF; only $192 million of that is for arrearages. The rest is for current assessments for the GEF.

So a $300 million number will catch us up on our arrearages, meet our current assessments and then we will be clean going into the next fiscal year on our obligations for the GEF. We think it's past time to get these things in order.

QUESTION: On page 42, there's a footnote number two that this is for NIS and that includes $1 million in parking fines. What is that?

AMBASSADOR JOHNSTONE: This is on page 42;let me go to page 42. But Kathleen, I think you - are you our expert on parking fines?

JIM PAINTER, AID: There is a requirement in the Foreign Operations Appropriations Act that would withhold foreign assistance for those countries which do not pay parking fines in the District of Columbia. We withhold those funds until the fines have been paid, at which time we would release the funds to that country.

AMBASSADOR JOHNSTONE: Jim Painter, of AID, who stepped in to answer the question. Thank you very much.

QUESTION: Which countries will be entitled for the Holocaust funds, and under which criteria?

AMBASSADOR JOHNSTONE: It is not countries that will be entitled to the Holocaust fund, but rather individuals who will be entitled to receive funds from non-governmental organizations, who will be the first recipients of the funds. So the funds will be distributed to the victims of the Holocaust, who will apply to non-governmental organizations who will receive the funds directly.

QUESTION: But what countries will have these individuals?

AMBASSADOR JOHNSTONE: It is not broken out by country. It's not a country-level program. This will be done by non-governmental organizations, for wherever the victims happen to be. No country is excluded; this is not a country-level program.

QUESTION: So as a follow-up to your answer on the supplemental, you mentioned that those funds were held hostage by the Republicans at the end of the last session. Do you have any reason to believe that those funds are still not - still won't be held hostage? Have you spoken with people on the Hill?

AMBASSADOR JOHNSTONE: For all of the issues in which the conditions were established around the population issue -- that is to say the organizational issue as well as the New Arrangements to Borrow and the arrearages for the international organizations -- is we intend to argue very strongly for de-linkage of those issues from the population issue. We don't think that it is a responsible course for the Congress to take, to deny funding for critical US national interests on the pretext that somehow it's linked to the population issue, which clearly it is not.

QUESTION: One follow-up, then, do you have any allies, specific allies, you can mention on the Republican side in the Republican leadership for this?

AMBASSADOR JOHNSTONE: I think there is a growing sense up on the Hill that we need to move ahead with these programs, and that they cannot continue to be stalled on this issue. I don't want to get into specific names.

QUESTION: A question about the New Independent States. Armenia receives more US Government assistance per capita than any other republic in the new independent states. At the same time, we know that Armenia occupies 20 percent territory of Azerbaijan and have military cooperation with Russia. Armenia recently received Russian arms worth $1 billion. Should we conclude that the US considers Armenia to be a model for the other states in the new independent states? How can you explain why Azerbaijan received only $21 million, when Armenia receives $87 million?

AMBASSADOR JOHNSTONE: First of all, I think it's a serious mistake in terms of funding assistance levels, to try and take a specific number and attribute to it an importance of a relationship. What we do, in trying to develop the numbers, is to try and measure what the circumstances are in the specific country, in terms of need; what the degree of reform impetus is that exists within the country; what we think is likely to happen over the next couple of years; and put forth a program that best matches our national interests in that regard, with all of those situations on the ground.

The breakout that you see here, I think, satisfies that requirement, but certainly doesn't represent one country being more or less important to us than any other country.

AMBASSADOR JOHNSTONE: If I could just take this gentleman here first.

QUESTION: You maintain the traditional levels of funding for the Middle East in this budget. The Israelis have come in suggesting that they would be willing to forego some of their economic aid in return for some enhanced military assistance, and with the total level coming down. Is there a reason that you have - is it just a matter of timing that that wasn't addressed in this budget request? And if there are savings from the Israeli Government, would that be kept in the Middle East, let's say, or does that go somewhere else?

AMBASSADOR JOHNSTONE: Our request has been to try and keep funding in the aggregate for the Middle East at traditional levels. I think we have a lot of discussions to hold with the parties within the region, directly, as well as with the Congress, on how exactly that should be administered, given the proposals made by the government of Israel, and given also the needs of other countries in the region.

QUESTION: On page 46, there is a line there, "South Asia regional democracy." What exactly is that?

AMBASSADOR JOHNSTONE: I beg your pardon?

QUESTION: There is a line there, on page 46, "South Asia regional democracy." What exactly is that?

AMBASSADOR JOHNSTONE: We have, within each of the regional areas of the world, set aside some funds for the promotion of democratic institutions. These are usually relatively small programs. They get into the issues of training judiciaries, exchange programs -- a whole series of things that help to solidify democracy or essentially to form partnerships with other democratic states within the regions. We did not have a fund for South Asia for some number of years. This past year we established one. We intend to continue on into this next year with that kind of program.

QUESTION: The President is supposed to go to Latin America, to Africa and to South Asia this year. I notice you have new programs for each area. Is there a connection between the fact that he's visiting and the fact that you're having new programs for each of these areas?

AMBASSADOR JOHNSTONE: We have new programs for each of these areas probably most years, including the years in which he doesn't visit. I think we try and base our programs on the basis of need within the respective areas. Certainly, the program for the Summit of the Americas is designed to try and meet our commitments under the agreements that have already been reached, not future commitments on the Summit of the Americas.

Clearly, when a President of the United States visits a region, it causes a lot of focus of attention on policy, and it can cause some readjustment of policy, as well as how we dispose of funds, but not specifically, no.

QUESTION: The Central Europe defense loans program, is that a new program?

AMBASSADOR JOHNSTONE: No, it is not.

QUESTION: How does that compare with previous years?

AMBASSADOR JOHNSTONE: There you've got me. Do we have - is Tom here?

STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: Same level.

AMBASSADOR JOHNSTONE: Same level as previous years.

QUESTION: The NATO Partnership for Peace, is that the same level, as well?

AMBASSADOR JOHNSTONE: We have - here you're talking about things that occur in more than one budget, so I need to be a little bit careful. We had set out $100 million as being the level that we wanted to have for Partnership for Peace/Central-Eastern Europe loan programs. And that is the level that it's at in this budget.

In any given year, because Defense also has programs that relate to building up the capacity of some of these countries to join NATO, the levels may fluctuate. But I'm not sure if the net level is different this year for our programs. They are more or less in the same ball park.

QUESTION: Yes, could you give a breakdown on the UN and other organizations arrears number -- the $1.021 billion that you would request in the supplemental?

AMBASSADOR JOHNSTONE: No, the reason being that we're looking at the issue right now, in terms of how we would want to allocate those funds, and we have not yet decided on what the allocation should be.

Our total arrears, as counted by the international organizations themselves, is actually somewhere on the order of $1.5 billion. So we will have some discretion in terms of which arrears we want to meet now and which ones we want to meet at some later time. And we haven't come to a final conclusion. I don't think we will come to a final conclusion until we've had discussions with the Congress on that issue.

QUESTION: One more question on Russia. It really jumps out at you from the page, it's such a huge increase, from $129 million to $225-plus million. Can you give us an idea of where all that's going? Is this all for the economic initiative?

AMBASSADOR JOHNSTONE: I'd be delighted. I think what should jump out at you from the page is the $129 million number, not the request number. Our request has always been substantially higher for Russia than what it is that we have been allowed to spend in Russia, as a result of congressional earmarks that don't relate to Russia at all, but relate to other countries. So when the Congress has imposed requirements that we fund other countries at specific levels, they have left only a residual amount for Russia that we have considered, consistently, to be inadequate to meet our security requirements in Russia.

So this simply restates what we have always considered to be our security requirements in Russia, and doesn't represent a change, in that sense, from past practices. What we think is necessary is to get the overall level of the NIS account, the Freedom Support Act funds, up to a level that we can fund, not just the other countries of the NIS adequately, but also fund Russia adequately, as well.

QUESTION: Ambassador, why your government has decided to terminate all the FMS military program to Greece and Turkey? Is there any specific reason for this?

AMBASSADOR JOHNSTONE: I think it is part of a normal process. We announced our intent to terminate these programs three years ago. We announced our intent two years ago. We finally got around to doing it. The honest answer is that this has been the subject of considerable discussion in the past. We've all known that we were coming up to the day in which graduation would take place. We've had consultations with the governments involved. This is the right moment to do it, and we've gone ahead and done it.

Any more questions?

(No response.)

AMBASSADOR JOHNSTONE: I'd like to thank - well, I'll take one more, then. Yes.

QUESTION: Building the new embassies, that's also in Berlin as well as in China, you said?

AMBASSADOR JOHNSTONE: Yes. The current embassy is in Bonn, as you know, and needs to be moved to Berlin. So we need a new structure to put the new embassy into.

QUESTION: I missed the number for the Bonn embassy.

AMBASSADOR JOHNSTONE: $50 million.

QUESTION: Million.

AMBASSADOR JOHNSTONE: Thank you very much.

QUESTION: Thank you.

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