Comments on: The Plame Case, Missing Email, and the President’s Daily Brief http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2006/02/the_plame_case_missing_email_a.html Secrecy News from the FAS Project on Government Secrecy Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:23:26 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: sam http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2006/02/the_plame_case_missing_email_a.html/comment-page-1#comment-451 sam Sun, 26 Feb 2006 05:48:31 +0000 http://fasweb.beacontec.com/blog/secrecy/2006/02/the_plame_case_missing_email_and_the_presidents_daily_brief.html#comment-451 Interesting that these emails have been so <i>conveniently</i> found -- just like the one by Rove re his (version of his) conversation with M.Cooper. I hope Fitzgerald's group realizes that one can set one's computer date and time back to what ever date you want, send your email which will have that date/time on it. However, the recipient will have the real time on it as received. So they should check all the computers of all the recipients of all these "newly found" emails. They may have very interesting very recent dates on them. Of course that would be falsifying evidence and obstructing justice and our VP would never do a thing like that. sam Interesting that these emails have been so conveniently found — just like the one by Rove re his (version of his) conversation with M.Cooper. I hope Fitzgerald’s group realizes that one can set one’s computer date and time back to what ever date you want, send your email which will have that date/time on it. However, the recipient will have the real time on it as received. So they should check all the computers of all the recipients of all these “newly found” emails.

They may have very interesting very recent dates on them.

Of course that would be falsifying evidence and obstructing justice and our VP would never do a thing like that.

sam

]]> By: MarcLord http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2006/02/the_plame_case_missing_email_a.html/comment-page-1#comment-450 MarcLord Sat, 25 Feb 2006 18:29:57 +0000 http://fasweb.beacontec.com/blog/secrecy/2006/02/the_plame_case_missing_email_and_the_presidents_daily_brief.html#comment-450 Patrick Fitzgerald's language regarding the missing emails seems to euphemistically allude to a White House IT effort to withhold, destroy or de-archive, and his wording further implies the effort failed. Such failure would not be surprising; the case involves intentional leaks of classified information to multiple reporters, so it should be assumed that official mails crossed the White House firewall. Once such mails went external, no amount of practical effort could ensure their permanent erasure, and Fitzgerald could've then discovered forwarded White House mails from any number of external sources, compared them to the internal White House records, and found proof of discrepancies. In this manner he could build compelling evidence of obstruction, particularly given zealous White House email archival and security policies. Another strong possibility would be that White House email system was circumvented entirely by using external service providers for communications with reporters. Doing so would yield the advantages of both secrecy and deniability. Using Gmail, for example, would get you under the radar of the multi-layered internal archival system, with its nasty potential for spying on the communications of inter-office rivals, and would provide you with a measure of deniability. That is, unless you made your handle something like karlinkontrol@gmail.com... Patrick Fitzgerald’s language regarding the missing emails seems to euphemistically allude to a White House IT effort to withhold, destroy or de-archive, and his wording further implies the effort failed. Such failure would not be surprising; the case involves intentional leaks of classified information to multiple reporters, so it should be assumed that official mails crossed the White House firewall.

Once such mails went external, no amount of practical effort could ensure their permanent erasure, and Fitzgerald could’ve then discovered forwarded White House mails from any number of external sources, compared them to the internal White House records, and found proof of discrepancies. In this manner he could build compelling evidence of obstruction, particularly given zealous White House email archival and security policies.

Another strong possibility would be that White House email system was circumvented entirely by using external service providers for communications with reporters. Doing so would yield the advantages of both secrecy and deniability. Using Gmail, for example, would get you under the radar of the multi-layered internal archival system, with its nasty potential for spying on the communications of inter-office rivals, and would provide you with a measure of deniability. That is, unless you made your handle something like karlinkontrol@gmail.com…

]]> By: Grace http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2006/02/the_plame_case_missing_email_a.html/comment-page-1#comment-449 Grace Fri, 03 Feb 2006 13:19:20 +0000 http://fasweb.beacontec.com/blog/secrecy/2006/02/the_plame_case_missing_email_and_the_presidents_daily_brief.html#comment-449 Here is the location of the missing e-mails...and hard drives, "From a tug boat by the river there's a cement bag just dropping on down. The cement's just for the weight dear, Bet you Mack is back in town" Here is the location of the missing e-mails…and hard drives,
“From a tug boat by the river there’s a cement bag just dropping on down. The cement’s just for the weight dear, Bet you Mack is back in town”

]]> By: mac http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2006/02/the_plame_case_missing_email_a.html/comment-page-1#comment-448 mac Fri, 03 Feb 2006 01:03:54 +0000 http://fasweb.beacontec.com/blog/secrecy/2006/02/the_plame_case_missing_email_and_the_presidents_daily_brief.html#comment-448 OBVIOUSLY, "DELETED" EMAILS CAN BE RECOVERED - IF ANY OF THE RELEVANT HARD DRIVES ARE (PARTIALLY) INTACT... UNLESS THEY HAVE ALL BEEN PULVERIZED..AND THERE ARE MANY H-DRIVES INVOLVED IN AN EMAIL TRANSMISION/DELIVERY. OBVIOUSLY, “DELETED” EMAILS CAN BE RECOVERED – IF ANY OF THE RELEVANT HARD DRIVES ARE (PARTIALLY) INTACT…
UNLESS THEY HAVE ALL BEEN PULVERIZED..AND THERE ARE MANY H-DRIVES INVOLVED IN AN EMAIL TRANSMISION/DELIVERY.

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