Comments on: House Poised to Grant Arrest Powers to CIA, NSA http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2006/04/house_poised_to_grant_arrest_p.html Secrecy News from the FAS Project on Government Secrecy Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:03:51 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: John http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2006/04/house_poised_to_grant_arrest_p.html/comment-page-1#comment-545 John Fri, 29 Dec 2006 23:19:16 +0000 http://fasweb.beacontec.com/blog/secrecy/2006/04/house_poised_to_grant_arrest_powers_to_cia_nsa.html#comment-545 DoD police do have arrest powers. The confusion is that they use the word, "apprehend" which means "to arrest". DoD police do have arrest powers. The confusion is that they use the word, “apprehend” which means “to arrest”.

]]> By: Denis http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2006/04/house_poised_to_grant_arrest_p.html/comment-page-1#comment-544 Denis Sun, 30 Apr 2006 17:19:42 +0000 http://fasweb.beacontec.com/blog/secrecy/2006/04/house_poised_to_grant_arrest_powers_to_cia_nsa.html#comment-544 Well, Its kinda like the DoD police. According to OPM an 0083 is a police officer yet they have no arrest authority. HR 1841 was supposed to give them arrest powers wich would in turn help prevent crime. I cant understand what the hurt is if your job requires you to carry a firearm and handcuffs and you have the RIGHT training. Civilians can make a citizens arrest but also the point of abuse is here. Oh well, cant win em all. Semper Fi Well,
Its kinda like the DoD police. According to OPM an 0083 is a police officer yet they have no arrest authority. HR 1841 was supposed to give them arrest powers wich would in turn help prevent crime. I cant understand what the hurt is if your job requires you to carry a firearm and handcuffs and you have the RIGHT training. Civilians can make a citizens arrest but also the point of abuse is here. Oh well, cant win em all. Semper Fi

]]> By: Morgan-LynnLamberth http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2006/04/house_poised_to_grant_arrest_p.html/comment-page-1#comment-543 Morgan-LynnLamberth Thu, 27 Apr 2006 23:19:06 +0000 http://fasweb.beacontec.com/blog/secrecy/2006/04/house_poised_to_grant_arrest_powers_to_cia_nsa.html#comment-543 Renditions, spying on peaceful groups and FISA violations show the contempt of the Cheney Bush administration for human rights. Congress must weigh in on these matters and set things right. [We should combat left and right weirdos!] Renditions, spying on peaceful groups and FISA violations show the contempt of the Cheney Bush administration for human rights. Congress must weigh in on these matters and set things right. [We should combat left and right weirdos!]

]]> By: faslify http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2006/04/house_poised_to_grant_arrest_p.html/comment-page-1#comment-542 faslify Thu, 27 Apr 2006 19:50:54 +0000 http://fasweb.beacontec.com/blog/secrecy/2006/04/house_poised_to_grant_arrest_powers_to_cia_nsa.html#comment-542 okay, a CIA guy could bring you down and give you to a private contractor to torture you (it wasn't us, it was the rent-a-cop!). but what is an NSA guy gonna do? throw a slide-rule at you? mess up your credit score later that night? come on, give me a break. okay, a CIA guy could bring you down and give you to a private contractor to torture you (it wasn’t us, it was the rent-a-cop!).

but what is an NSA guy gonna do? throw a slide-rule at you? mess up your credit score later that night? come on, give me a break.

]]> By: Comrade Martin http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2006/04/house_poised_to_grant_arrest_p.html/comment-page-1#comment-541 Comrade Martin Thu, 27 Apr 2006 06:15:33 +0000 http://fasweb.beacontec.com/blog/secrecy/2006/04/house_poised_to_grant_arrest_powers_to_cia_nsa.html#comment-541 Just a quick note on comment from PW: This isn't like Stalinism. Stalinism was perversion of Socialism by means of revisionism, a negative product of Vanguardist Socialism. No, Bush is just an Imperialist leader, representative of the ultra-reactionary sector of the Capitalist class. Should a depression or recession come around the bend, you can bet Fascism will come about without question from the administration. Just a quick note on comment from PW: This isn’t like Stalinism. Stalinism was perversion of Socialism by means of revisionism, a negative product of Vanguardist Socialism.

No, Bush is just an Imperialist leader, representative of the ultra-reactionary sector of the Capitalist class. Should a depression or recession come around the bend, you can bet Fascism will come about without question from the administration.

]]> By: GUYK http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2006/04/house_poised_to_grant_arrest_p.html/comment-page-1#comment-540 GUYK Wed, 26 Apr 2006 23:22:55 +0000 http://fasweb.beacontec.com/blog/secrecy/2006/04/house_poised_to_grant_arrest_powers_to_cia_nsa.html#comment-540 I have contended for years that the right wing is as dangerous as the left wing. I understand the need to be able to track and investigate terrorists. Maybe the problem is we have too gotdam many security agencies and they all should be combined into one. But a CIA or NSA making an arrest is just too much for me to swallow. Either they are intelligence gatherers or law enforcement but damn sure not both. I have contended for years that the right wing is as dangerous as the left wing. I understand the need to be able to track and investigate terrorists. Maybe the problem is we have too gotdam many security agencies and they all should be combined into one. But a CIA or NSA making an arrest is just too much for me to swallow. Either they are intelligence gatherers or law enforcement but damn sure not both.

]]> By: Larry Swadner http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2006/04/house_poised_to_grant_arrest_p.html/comment-page-1#comment-539 Larry Swadner Wed, 26 Apr 2006 18:05:35 +0000 http://fasweb.beacontec.com/blog/secrecy/2006/04/house_poised_to_grant_arrest_powers_to_cia_nsa.html#comment-539 Brendan, Either you are a plant or are totally confused about the basis of our government. This is a clear abuse of power, and points the way clearly to complete control of the populace at every level. Democracy = mob rule...republic = freedom! Brendan,

Either you are a plant or are totally confused about the basis of our government. This is a clear abuse of power, and points the way clearly to complete control of the populace at every level. Democracy = mob rule…republic = freedom!

]]> By: Matt http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2006/04/house_poised_to_grant_arrest_p.html/comment-page-1#comment-538 Matt Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:41:56 +0000 http://fasweb.beacontec.com/blog/secrecy/2006/04/house_poised_to_grant_arrest_powers_to_cia_nsa.html#comment-538 Brendan, Hmm not to be rude, but is this comment for another thread? From the information provided here, I don't really see anything here that backs your reasoned argument of Federal and Local cooperation. Instead this seems to be another Federal Powergrab to institute extra powers. It doesn't alarm you that the CIA could now arrest your for any crime committed in their midst. Well, color me skeptical of this ideas benefits. Brendan,
Hmm not to be rude, but is this comment for another thread? From the information provided here, I don’t really see anything here that backs your reasoned argument of Federal and Local cooperation.
Instead this seems to be another Federal Powergrab to institute extra powers. It doesn’t alarm you that the CIA could now arrest your for any crime committed in their midst.
Well, color me skeptical of this ideas benefits.

]]> By: PW http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2006/04/house_poised_to_grant_arrest_p.html/comment-page-1#comment-537 PW Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:08:18 +0000 http://fasweb.beacontec.com/blog/secrecy/2006/04/house_poised_to_grant_arrest_powers_to_cia_nsa.html#comment-537 This really opens the door to Stalinism at its finest. Nothing to be proud of. Many thanks to Secrecy News for making sure information about this bill is seen and (one can hope!) acted on. This really opens the door to Stalinism at its finest. Nothing to be proud of. Many thanks to Secrecy News for making sure information about this bill is seen and (one can hope!) acted on.

]]> By: Brendan Bugar http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2006/04/house_poised_to_grant_arrest_p.html/comment-page-1#comment-536 Brendan Bugar Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:53:44 +0000 http://fasweb.beacontec.com/blog/secrecy/2006/04/house_poised_to_grant_arrest_powers_to_cia_nsa.html#comment-536 Those who are working for the intelligence community should have the ability to coordinate with other agencies and law enforcement to curb actions seen as threatening to our nations security. A well coordinated effort would be the key in assisting our communities along with our local and state governments on the continuing domestic isues such as drug trafficing. Infringing upon the authority at the local and state levels is a delicate matter. The authority to make commercial arrests would have to lie in the hands of the local and state law enforcers. Given the proper screening, information provided by the public should be properly handled by those within the local and state levels of law enforcement. This is Democracy at its finest. Those who are working for the intelligence community should have the ability to coordinate with other agencies and law enforcement to curb actions seen as threatening to our nations security. A well coordinated effort would be the key in assisting our communities along with our local and state governments on the continuing domestic isues such as drug trafficing. Infringing upon the authority at the local and state levels is a delicate matter. The authority to make commercial arrests would have to lie in the hands of the local and state law enforcers. Given the proper screening, information provided by the public should be properly handled by those within the local and state levels of law enforcement. This is Democracy at its finest.

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