Comments on: Wikileaks and Untraceable Document Disclosure http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2007/01/wikileaks_and_untraceable_docu.html Secrecy News from the FAS Project on Government Secrecy Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:03:51 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Gene Douglas http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2007/01/wikileaks_and_untraceable_docu.html/comment-page-1#comment-1064 Gene Douglas Sun, 24 Feb 2008 00:15:30 +0000 http://fasweb.beacontec.com/blog/secrecy/2007/01/wikileaks_and_untraceable_document_disclosure.html#comment-1064 The link doesn't work, and I heard that a federal judge ordered the website taken down. However, I also heard that there are mirror sites all over the world. So how do I find a mirror site? The link doesn’t work, and I heard that a federal judge ordered the website taken down. However, I also heard that there are mirror sites all over the world. So how do I find a mirror site?

]]> By: Tomcat http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2007/01/wikileaks_and_untraceable_docu.html/comment-page-1#comment-1028 Tomcat Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:48:25 +0000 http://fasweb.beacontec.com/blog/secrecy/2007/01/wikileaks_and_untraceable_document_disclosure.html#comment-1028 Lets see, wikileaks collects dirt on everyone, and now America shuts it down. Hummmm. Very interesting.... Democracy in action. I do not see them shutting down other crackpots. Lets see, wikileaks collects dirt on everyone, and now America shuts it down. Hummmm. Very interesting…. Democracy in action. I do not see them shutting down other crackpots.

]]> By: Jose http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2007/01/wikileaks_and_untraceable_docu.html/comment-page-1#comment-698 Jose Sat, 10 Mar 2007 12:38:42 +0000 http://fasweb.beacontec.com/blog/secrecy/2007/01/wikileaks_and_untraceable_document_disclosure.html#comment-698 Ah yes, "accountable editorial oversight" - the experts must rule in superior virtue and wisdom. So what is oversight, one may ask. Maybe it's the New York Times' excuses on warmongering about yellowcake and 45-minute windows. Mistakes were made yes yes we admit - but ha ha, our beloved CFR gets a splendid little war anyway. Now the editors instruct us our only prudent option is to "stay the course." What a nice little editor's world. Staffers with clearance are already trusted by definition. We have no choice. No one else CAN blow the whistles. If we do not provide a mechanism then we permit evil to flourish. Hesitation while WWIII looms seems trite. Let's not await perfection. Oversight did not prevent the Valerie Plame fiasco. But wait, it turns out Mr. and Mrs. Plame were long since complicit in sordid evils having zilch to do with the people's business. I'm talking coup d'etat and assassination across the planet. <a href="http://takingaimradio.com/" rel="nofollow">Ralph Schoenman</a> compared her outing to the SS versus the SA. Cheney being SS, and Plame being SA. One faction of evil turns on another - maybe not such a bad result after all. Ah yes, “accountable editorial oversight” – the experts must rule in superior virtue and wisdom.

So what is oversight, one may ask. Maybe it’s the New York Times’ excuses on warmongering about yellowcake and 45-minute windows. Mistakes were made yes yes we admit – but ha ha, our beloved CFR gets a splendid little war anyway.

Now the editors instruct us our only prudent option is to “stay the course.” What a nice little editor’s world.

Staffers with clearance are already trusted by definition. We have no choice. No one else CAN blow the whistles. If we do not provide a mechanism then we permit evil to flourish.

Hesitation while WWIII looms seems trite. Let’s not await perfection.

Oversight did not prevent the Valerie Plame fiasco. But wait, it turns out Mr. and Mrs. Plame were long since complicit in sordid evils having zilch to do with the people’s business. I’m talking coup d’etat and assassination across the planet.

Ralph Schoenman compared her outing to the SS versus the SA. Cheney being SS, and Plame being SA. One faction of evil turns on another – maybe not such a bad result after all.

]]> By: a user http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2007/01/wikileaks_and_untraceable_docu.html/comment-page-1#comment-697 a user Mon, 08 Jan 2007 16:26:52 +0000 http://fasweb.beacontec.com/blog/secrecy/2007/01/wikileaks_and_untraceable_document_disclosure.html#comment-697 Check out this url at cryptopme - <a href="http://cryptome.org/wikileaks/wikileaks-leak.htm" rel="nofollow">http://cryptome.org/wikileaks/wikileaks-leak.htm</a> Check out this url at cryptopme – http://cryptome.org/wikileaks/wikileaks-leak.htm

]]> By: Denis Mertens http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2007/01/wikileaks_and_untraceable_docu.html/comment-page-1#comment-696 Denis Mertens Mon, 08 Jan 2007 05:03:58 +0000 http://fasweb.beacontec.com/blog/secrecy/2007/01/wikileaks_and_untraceable_document_disclosure.html#comment-696 Certainly a brilliant way to collect info without putting at risk those who are interested in the info... But! Who is really behind it? Will US-document disclosures be uncensored too? Our western civilisation more and more becomes judge and party. Isn't this another tool in the trend? Certainly a brilliant way to collect info without putting at risk those who are interested in the info…
But! Who is really behind it? Will US-document disclosures be uncensored too?
Our western civilisation more and more becomes judge and party. Isn’t this another tool in the trend?

]]> By: David Ferrier http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2007/01/wikileaks_and_untraceable_docu.html/comment-page-1#comment-695 David Ferrier Thu, 04 Jan 2007 02:57:14 +0000 http://fasweb.beacontec.com/blog/secrecy/2007/01/wikileaks_and_untraceable_document_disclosure.html#comment-695 I was surprised by the inclusion of the phrase "offense against good taste." If "good taste" were to be made one criterion of what secrets to divulge, who would guard the guardians? I was surprised by the inclusion of the phrase “offense against good taste.” If “good taste” were to be made one criterion of what secrets to divulge, who would guard the guardians?

]]> By: Tlaloc http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2007/01/wikileaks_and_untraceable_docu.html/comment-page-1#comment-694 Tlaloc Wed, 03 Jan 2007 18:53:17 +0000 http://fasweb.beacontec.com/blog/secrecy/2007/01/wikileaks_and_untraceable_document_disclosure.html#comment-694 "So we disagree on first principles? No problem, replied Wikileaks: "Advisory positions are just that -- advisory! If you want to advise us to censor, then by all means do so."" So then are you considering taking on the role? “So we disagree on first principles? No problem, replied Wikileaks: “Advisory positions are just that — advisory! If you want to advise us to censor, then by all means do so.”"

So then are you considering taking on the role?

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