Comments on: Court Issues Injunction Against Wikileaks.org http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2008/02/court_issues_injunction_agains.html Secrecy News from the FAS Project on Government Secrecy Thu, 24 May 2012 10:04:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Steve http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2008/02/court_issues_injunction_agains.html/comment-page-1#comment-2913 Steve Mon, 16 Mar 2009 01:06:48 +0000 http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2008/02/court_issues_injunction_agains.html#comment-2913 I agree that the government does have their fascist tendencies, but if you had that much money, do NOT tell me you would try to be creative and try to get away with paying less tax. Yes, this includes moving money around, opening accounts and shifting other assets. if you say no, you're a liar. When your net worth closely resembles an international long distance number, then come back on here and tell us you are paying all the taxes you should. If you come back complaining, then you're just jealous and do not have the proper mindset to make that much money and you should stay out of it. I am a big advocate of privacy, but understand some things, the public should know...stop trying to show the things we already know. I agree that the government does have their fascist tendencies, but if you had that much money, do NOT tell me you would try to be creative and try to get away with paying less tax. Yes, this includes moving money around, opening accounts and shifting other assets. if you say no, you’re a liar. When your net worth closely resembles an international long distance number, then come back on here and tell us you are paying all the taxes you should. If you come back complaining, then you’re just jealous and do not have the proper mindset to make that much money and you should stay out of it. I am a big advocate of privacy, but understand some things, the public should know…stop trying to show the things we already know.

]]> By: Anon http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2008/02/court_issues_injunction_agains.html/comment-page-1#comment-1049 Anon Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:05:52 +0000 http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2008/02/court_issues_injunction_agains.html#comment-1049 Lucy - Who has to worry about hiding assets? Within living memory, and in the midst of "civilized Europe" try Jews living in Nazi Germany. Lucy –

Who has to worry about hiding assets? Within living memory, and in the midst of “civilized Europe” try Jews living in Nazi Germany.

]]> By: jhm http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2008/02/court_issues_injunction_agains.html/comment-page-1#comment-1037 jhm Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:23:11 +0000 http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2008/02/court_issues_injunction_agains.html#comment-1037 <p>Pardon my ignorance, but does this erase the 'wikileaks.org' DNS lookup only? in other words, could one bypass the restraint by knowing the actual address of the server?</p> <p>I'm not at all sure, even if this were the case, if security concerns don't lead people to regularly change the actual address in the DNS lookup, so perhaps it's a distinction without a difference.</p> <P><i>[That's right. The wikileaks site is still online and accessible at <a href="http://88.80.13.160/wiki/Wikileaks" rel="nofollow">http://88.80.13.160/wiki/Wikileaks</a>. --SA]</i></p> Pardon my ignorance, but does this erase the ‘wikileaks.org’ DNS lookup only? in other words, could one bypass the restraint by knowing the actual address of the server?

I’m not at all sure, even if this were the case, if security concerns don’t lead people to regularly change the actual address in the DNS lookup, so perhaps it’s a distinction without a difference.

[That's right. The wikileaks site is still online and accessible at http://88.80.13.160/wiki/Wikileaks. --SA]

]]> By: Southern Migrator » Wiki Wiped Out … Maybe http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2008/02/court_issues_injunction_agains.html/comment-page-1#comment-1032 Southern Migrator » Wiki Wiped Out … Maybe Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:14:05 +0000 http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2008/02/court_issues_injunction_agains.html#comment-1032 [...] its blog Secrecy News, the federation says, “The disclosure restrictions that wikileaks managed to defeat were not [...] [...] its blog Secrecy News, the federation says, “The disclosure restrictions that wikileaks managed to defeat were not [...]

]]> By: Lucy Komisar http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2008/02/court_issues_injunction_agains.html/comment-page-1#comment-1031 Lucy Komisar Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:59:31 +0000 http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2008/02/court_issues_injunction_agains.html#comment-1031 Re: "They were banking secrecy laws that protect ordinary people as well as corporate malefactors." You are wrong about this. The bank secrecy laws are set up to protect crooks. What kind of ordinary people have to hide their money in accounts that don't list the names of real owners, that don't cooperate with international law enforcement on the trails of drug traffickers, corporate fraudsters like the Enron folks, million-dollar tax evaders and the like? That have "flee clauses" so that if law enforcement is on the trail, the accounts are sent to other offshore places? Liechtenstein, for example. How do banking secrecy laws protect ordinary people? Ordinary people keep their accounts at home, where there are normal laws that say that accounts are private except for law enforcement with judicial orders. I suspect that neither you nor I feel a need to put money in Grand Cayman. Lucy Komisar, Co-chair Tax Justice Network-USA Re: “They were banking secrecy laws that protect ordinary people as well as
corporate malefactors.”

You are wrong about this. The bank secrecy laws are set up to protect crooks. What kind of ordinary people have to hide their money in accounts that don’t list the names of real owners, that don’t cooperate with international law enforcement on the trails of drug traffickers, corporate fraudsters like the Enron folks, million-dollar tax evaders and the like?

That have “flee clauses” so that if law enforcement is on the trail, the
accounts are sent to other offshore places? Liechtenstein, for example.

How do banking secrecy laws protect ordinary people? Ordinary people keep
their accounts at home, where there are normal laws that say that accounts
are private except for law enforcement with judicial orders. I suspect that neither you nor I feel a need to put money in Grand Cayman.

Lucy Komisar, Co-chair Tax Justice Network-USA

]]>