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DATE=5/5/2000 TYPE=BACKGROUND REPORT TITLE=JUDGING SADDAM HUSSEIN NUMBER=5-46278 BYLINE=ED WARNER DATELINE=WASHINGTON CONTENT= VOICED AT: INTRO: Former President George Bush once described Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein as "Worse than Hitler." That was after the Iraqi leader had invaded Kuwait and the United States was preparing to go to war against him. At a recent Washington conference there was not much dissent from President Bush's impression of Mr. Hussein, but participants suggested that shunning or isolating evil is not necessarily a useful foreign policy. VOA's Ed Warner has this background report on the debate. TEXT: Saddam Hussein, still in power after years of effort to remove him, was the focus of discussion at a meeting of the Middle East Policy Council on Capitol Hill. David Wurmser of the American Enterprise Institute, a Washington based research institute, said Saddam Hussein is uniquely evil. It was not just a matter of his invading Kuwait. /// Wurmser act /// This is a man who waged war on his own people, and he used gas to do so. This puts him in a very, very small group of people. That is really a horrific thing to think about. And that is talking only about the Kurds. We are not even talking here about what he did to the Shiites. /// end act /// Graham Fuller of RAND, another Washington policy institute, says Iraq under Saddam Hussein is the worst regime in the history of the modern Middle East. Mr. Fuller supported the war against him and expected that to bring him down. When that did not happen, he says it made sense to apply pressure on Iraq. /// Fuller act /// But let's face it. The policy has now failed. It is not going to happen. The sad fact is that when you travel around the Muslim world - in Muslim Xingjiang in China or Indonesia - I find support for Saddam Hussein. Now this is an emotional support. The people do not know much about him, and they probably would not really like his policies. But does this not tell us something? /// end act /// Mr. Fuller says the United States acts virtually alone in maintaining the embargo on Iraq. There is no consensus behind it. Observing the suffering of Iraqis, Muslims turn on the United States, not Saddam Hussein. Ted Carpenter, director of defense and foreign policy studies at the Cato Institute, says U-S policy toward Iraq is adrift. /// Carpenter act /// Any policy that has the United States still battling the same regime, the same adversary, using many of the same tactics ten years after an armed conflict is by definition a failure. We have become reluctantly, but inexorably, Saddam Hussein's jailer. We maintain the embargo. We bomb periodically, largely because we cannot seem to think of anything else to do. /// end act /// Mr. Carpenter says the United States looks like a bully beating up a small country that cannot defend itself. ///OPT/// But it is not easy for a democracy to change its policy toward a leader it has demonized, says Brooks Wrampelmeier of the Society for Gulf Arab Studies. /// Wrampelmeier act /// It takes about twenty years for us to think about moving beyond that demonization. It has only been about ten years since the Gulf war. How do we propose to improve or even talk to Saddam Hussein without changing the whole process that we have used to demonize him in this county in the first place? /// end act end OPT /// Edward Peck, former U-S Chief of Mission in Iraq, noted that the United States, when it suits its own interests, has no trouble dealing with dictators. So other countries tend to view American actions as arbitrary, if not hypocritical. /// Peck act /// Who gave us the right to decide who rules Iraq? There seems to be a fixation that the only way for anybody to run their business is our way. We call it democratization. By definition, you do not impose democracy. It comes up from the bottom. The rest of the world are not necessarily convinced that our way is the best way, let alone the only way. /// end act /// Ted Carpenter of CATO recalls that the United States supported Saddam Hussein in the 1980's. Was he suddenly transformed on August 1990 when he invaded Kuwait? Mr. Carpenter says a nation will pursue its interests, even if inconsistencies are involved. But what, he asks, are the U-S interests in its current policy toward Iraq. (SIGNED) NEB/EW/KBK 05-May-2000 16:05 PM EDT (05-May-2000 2005 UTC) NNNN Source: Voice of America .