Index




                              May 5, 1999
    Does the ABM Treaty Still Serve U.S. Strategic and Arms Control 
                     Objectives in A Changed World?

Biden, Hon. Joseph R., Jr., U.S. Senator from Delaware, prepared 
  statement......................................................   149
Habiger, Gen. Eugene E., former Commander in Chief, U.S. 
  Strategic Command, Omaha, NE...................................   139
Lehman, Hon. Ronald F., former Director of the Arms Control and 
  Disarmament Agency.............................................   122
    Prepared statement of........................................   127
        Remarks entitled ``Changing Realities,'' November 1992, 
          published 1993.........................................   129
        Remarks entitled ``START II, Missile Non-Proliferation, 
          and Missile Defense--The Offense-Defense Relationship: 
          Past and Future.'' February 14, 1996, at Carnegie 
          Endowment Seminar......................................   132
Payne, Dr. Keith B., president and director of research, National 
  Institute for Public Policy; and adjunct professor, Georgetown 
  University, Washington, DC.....................................   141
    Prepared statement of........................................   144
Woolsey, Hon. R. James, former Director of the Central 
  Intelligence Agency............................................   116
    Prepared statement of........................................   120






S. Hrg. 106-339 BALLISTIC MISSILES: THREAT AND RESPONSE ======================================================================= HEARINGS BEFORE THE COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN RELATIONS UNITED STATES SENATE ONE HUNDRED SIXTH CONGRESS FIRST SESSION __________ APRIL 15 AND 20, MAY 4, 5, 13, 25, 26, AND SEPTEMBER 16, 1999 __________ Printed for the use of the Committee on Foreign Relations <snowflake> Available via the World Wide Web: http://www.access.gpo.gov/congress/senate U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE 56-777 CC WASHINGTON : 2000 COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN RELATIONS JESSE HELMS, North Carolina, Chairman RICHARD G. LUGAR, Indiana JOSEPH R. BIDEN, Jr., Delaware PAUL COVERDELL, Georgia PAUL S. SARBANES, Maryland CHUCK HAGEL, Nebraska CHRISTOPHER J. DODD, Connecticut GORDON H. SMITH, Oregon JOHN F. KERRY, Massachusetts ROD GRAMS, Minnesota RUSSELL D. FEINGOLD, Wisconsin SAM BROWNBACK, Kansas PAUL D. WELLSTONE, Minnesota CRAIG THOMAS, Wyoming BARBARA BOXER, California JOHN ASHCROFT, Missouri ROBERT G. TORRICELLI, New Jersey BILL FRIST, Tennessee Stephen E. Biegun, Staff Director Edwin K. Hall, Minority Staff Director (ii)
DOES THE ABM TREATY STILL SERVE U.S. STRATEGIC AND ARMS CONTROL OBJECTIVES IN A CHANGED WORLD? ---------- WEDNESDAY, MAY 5, 1999 U.S. Senate, Committee on Foreign Relations, Washington, DC. The committee met, pursuant to notice, at 10:09 a.m., in room SD-562, Dirksen Senate Office Building, the Hon. Chuck Hagel presiding. Present: Senators Hagel and Biden. Senator Hagel. On behalf of the Foreign Relations Committee, I welcome all of you to today's hearing, the fourth in the Foreign Relations Committee series of hearings that have focused on the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty. This morning's distinguished witnesses are experts in the fields of arms control and missile defense. They are the Honorable Jim Woolsey, Director of Central Intelligence from 1993 to 1995; Honorable Ronald Lehman, Director for the Arms Control and Disarmament Agency from 1989 to 1993; Dr. Keith Payne, a foremost scholar on arms control issues and president and founding research director at the National Institute for Public Policy; and my--not old, but long-time friend--Air Force General Eugene Habiger, former Commander in Chief, United States Strategic Command. And we welcome you all here this morning, and we are grateful that you would spend a little time to make the kind of contributions that are important to this issue. And we appreciate your presence because within each of you embodies a number of insights that are very important to the perspective on not only this issue, but the long-term issues that we are dealing with relative to the consequences of what we do next, and how we go about taking that action. At the outset, let me say that I personally strongly believe that the United States must begin the task of immediately designing, building and deploying a national missile defense system to protect the American people from the growing threat of ballistic missile attack. The Rumsfeld Commission has warned rather clearly that both North Korea and Iran ``would be able to inflict major destruction on the U.S. within about 5 years of a decision to acquire such a capability.'' No one that watched North Korea's flight testing of the Taepo Dong-I or Iran's launches of the Shahab-3 can reasonably doubt that the decision has been made to go forward with their technology. Both of these nations know that America cannot now defend itself against missile attack, as does all of the world. And yet this administration continues to stall and delay in deploying such a defense. It is becoming very clear that over the course of this committee's investigation that the true source of the Clinton administration's opposition to ballistic missile defense seems to be its devotion to what many of us believe is an antiquated arms control agreement, the 1972 ABM Treaty. Like many of my colleagues, I am deeply troubled that this country is being held hostage to an outdated concept of strategic deterrence that has outlived its purpose. It is no longer relevant, and most importantly has placed the United States in a very dangerous and vulnerable position. Former Secretary of State Dr. Henry Kissinger put it best when he recently wrote, and I quote, ``The end of the cold war has made a strategy of mutually assured destruction largely irrelevant. Barely plausible when there was only one strategic opponent, the theory makes no sense in a multi-polar world of proliferating nuclear powers.'' Gentlemen, again, we are grateful for your testimony, and the committee looks forward to hearing your insights. With that, let me now ask each of you to present your testimony. I will be joined by colleagues as votes occur and other committees lighten their load and we would ask that each of you give your statements and then we will come back with questions. I would ask Mr. Woolsey to begin. Thank you. STATEMENT OF HON. R. JAMES WOOLSEY, FORMER DIRECTOR OF THE CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY Ambassador Woolsey. Thank you. Mr. Chairman, I will, if it is all right, ask for my statement to be inserted in the record, and I will just speak informally from it for a few minutes. Senator Hagel. It will be. Ambassador Woolsey. What I would like to suggest this morning, Mr. Chairman, is that in the circumstances of today, strong support for ballistic missile defense and a willingness to amend substantially, even to withdraw from, the ABM Treaty is a reasonable position. And I want to suggest to the committee that it is a reasonable position even for those who, like myself, have historically emphasized the central importance of offensive strategic systems, have seen some value in certain arms control agreements, and did not initially welcome President Reagan's Strategic Defense Initiative. The circumstances have changed, and to my mind that calls for a substantial change in our assumptions and policies. I will skip the biographical points I made really to just point out to the committee that I have been involved in this issue for 30 years in one way or another, in a number of different capacities. And I mention that in 1987, immediately after the Reykjavik summit, Brent Scowcroft and I co-authored an article in the New York Times Magazine, which included the following statement in criticism of the proposals to end all ballistic missiles that President Reagan had made at Reykjavik and to rely, essentially, completely on SDI. We wrote, ``The official line has become a sort of a strategic Manichaeanism: that there exists only the dawn of SDI and the darkness of mutual assured destruction that went before it. The concept of careful and stable deterrence, with modernization of nuclear weapons to improve their survivability, some militarily useful work on defensive systems and moderate arms control was abandoned.'' Now, in the circumstances of the time, Mr. Chairman, I think that that was at least a reasonable and defensible position which we advanced. But it is important to realize that for a number of those of us who held that set of views, it was not desirable that the world consisted of a strategic situation in which assured destruction was mutual. It was very far from being desirable from our point of view that the Soviet Union was able to destroy the United States. Quite a few of us never liked the mutual aspect of mutual assured destruction at all. But we persuaded ourselves that nonetheless the ABM Treaty presented the lesser of two evils really for two reasons. First of all, we were not convinced that the technologies that were available or even foreseeable in the early seventies, when the treaty was signed and even through much of the eighties, for ballistic missile defense were going to spawn deployable systems that were capable of defending us reliably against our major concern, which was an all-out Soviet attack. Threats of lesser magnitude, such as from rogue states, were not really on the horizon at that point. And as far as China was concerned, the central strategic reality with respect to China for most of that period was that we were cooperating with China in what began in the Nixon administration--I think a rather clever triangulation effort to work cooperatively with China against the much larger threat, the Soviet Union. So for that set of reasons, ballistic missile defense was not at the forefront of much of--for many of us--our thinking. The second reason was a sort of belt and suspenders reason. We felt that the massive Soviet lead in large ICBM's equipped with MIRV's seriously threatened our own ICBM force, particularly Minuteman. And that would force us, in a crisis-- particularly a crisis that might arise in Europe where the Soviets had a huge conventional force, particularly the Group of Soviet Forces in Germany that threatened Western Europe--in which if nuclear war should come about, we might be thrown back on relying very heavily on our own ballistic missile submarines, the ICBM's and a major share of the bombers being vulnerable. In such a situation, Soviet deployment of an ABM system, we felt, could lead Soviet advisors and the Politbureau to be too optimistic. We thus felt it was important to limit Soviet defenses to the relatively small deployment around Moscow because they had an extensive infrastructure of sophisticated radars and air defense interceptors that in some circumstances might be applicable to dealing with an American retaliatory strike. And we felt that deterring the Soviets in a crisis depended very heavily on our being able to clearly and under all circumstances penetrate their defenses. We believed that strategic stability required the Soviets to have that degree of certainty, and we were willing to pay in the coin of limiting American defensive systems in order that the Soviets would not have effective defenses. Now that thinking may seem dated today--and to some it was not persuasive in 1972, and it came increasingly to be questioned after President Reagan's famous 1983 SDI speech. By the end of the cold war and in the nineties the strategic changes are major: (a) the rise of the possibility of an accidental or unauthorized launch by the increasingly chaotic Russian military forces, even including the Strategic Rocket Forces; (b) persistent work on longer range and more flexible ballistic missiles and on weapons of mass destruction by rogue states; and I would add, (c) China's increasingly intransigent position with respect to Taiwan and its own ballistic missile threat against the United States. For all of these reasons, I believe that the ABM Treaty in today's world really has to be seen in an entirely different light. First, I would say there is common ground possible between those of us who have been on different sides of the ABM Treaty debate in the past. We may have both been somewhat right and somewhat wrong. It does not matter. Together, we won the cold war. It is time--indeed, it is past time--to go on to the next set of problems. Second, if we focus on the strategic realities of today, there is, in my judgment, no strategic rationale for the ABM Treaty. The old rationale of our wanting to limit Soviet defenses as spelled out above does not apply to today's Russia or to the Russia of the foreseeable future. Even if that country turns more hostile to the United States than it is today, Russia is no longer capable of threatening Europe with many divisions of conventional forces, so it would have no advantage in a crisis on that continent. Moreover, Russian strategic nuclear forces do not threaten a substantial share of our nuclear deterrent. The deterrent that we do maintain is no longer heavily reliant on fixed land- based ICBM's that might be vulnerable to Russian attack. Hence, we have no particular reason to want to limit Russian defenses to ensure that our retaliatory forces would be able to penetrate those defenses. The only rationale in my judgment for the ABM Treaty today is one that is rooted in current foreign affairs concerns. The Russians do not want us to withdraw from it, so doing so would, presumably, upset them and perhaps lead them to do other things that we do not want. For example, they may threaten for the dozenth time or so to refuse to ratify the START II Treaty. But it seems to me there is a limit to the degree to which we should let this sort of thing influence us. In the first place, numbers of Russian warheads are not the principal threat to strategic stability now. We are not worried particularly about their launching an attack on our fixed land-based ICBM's. It is better for the Russians to have more warheads if those are controlled by a solid command and control system, than fewer warheads in a chaotic situation. Numbers of warheads were the currency back in the seventies and even into the eighties because of the threat to our fixed land-based ICBM's. As far as I am concerned, that is not the currency any more. That is not the measure, the figure of merit, that one should focus on when dealing with the strategic balance. It seems to me that it is worthwhile--because Russia is an important nation and a country that we need to work with on a number of matters--and important to propose changes to the Russians with respect to the ABM Treaty, and to try to work with them as we did in 1992. President Yeltsin himself made a remarkable speech in January 1992 and that led to the Ross-Mamedov talks in 1992-93, in which the Bush administration tried to bring the Russian Government around to support for substantial amendments to the ABM Treaty and a reasonably substantial deployment of ballistic missile defenses in the United States. It is worth trying in my judgment to return to the days of 1992. I believe with the current Russian Government, success is most unlikely, but I think the probability is not zero. If such an approach proves fruitless, there are ample legal and strategic grounds, in my view, for withdrawing from the treaty. We cannot perpetually let our security versus the likes of North Korea, Iran, and Iraq be held hostage to Russia's not wanting us to have defenses. In the meantime, Mr. Chairman, I do not support, and I urged the Senate nearly 2 years ago not to approve, the delineation agreement that the administration has reached with the Russians, which limits unnecessarily the effectiveness of our theater defenses, nor the accompanying expansion of the treaty to encompass Belarus, Ukraine and Kazakhstan. That expansion to include those countries is a step for which, in my judgment, there is not even the tiniest shred of a strategic rationale. We do not fear an attack from Belarus, Ukraine or Kazakhstan with intercontinental ballistic missiles, because they do not have any. We do not need to limit their defenses in order to deter them from attacking us; therefore, we do not care what kind of defensive systems Belarus, Ukraine and Kazakhstan have. And there is absolutely no reason for our giving someone such as Mr. Lukashenko, who speaks for the most unreconstructed parts of the reds and browns in the former Soviet Union, some sort of veto over our ability to defend ourselves. In my judgment, Mr. Chairman, only a very major modification of or withdrawal from the treaty would meet our strategic needs. As interpreted by the administration, the treaty is even undermining the effectiveness of our theater ballistic missile defenses at the present time, systems that are not supposed to be covered by the treaty. A very limited one- or two-site defense of the United States of the sort that might be compatible with a treaty that has only been modestly amended would be essentially worthless against some perfectly plausible threats such as ship-launched ballistic missiles. That is one of the threats that we identified during the deliberations of the Rumsfeld Commission on which I served. Indeed against some very plausible threats, such as ballistic missiles carrying clusters of biological weapons that might be released early in an ICBM's trajectory, only boost- phase intercept from space is going to offer a possible solution. In short, Mr. Chairman, the world in which the ABM Treaty was an imperfect but, in my view, a reasonable accommodation to the strategic circumstances in which we found ourselves is gone with the wind. In the new world in which we live, we now require defenses for our security. And our treaty obligations should be adjusted to serve our strategic needs, not the other way around. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Senator Hagel. Mr. Woolsey, thank you. [The prepared statement of Ambassador Woolsey follows:] Prepared Statement of Hon. R. James Woolsey Mr. Chairman, Members of the Committee, it is an honor to be asked to testify before you today on the topic of the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty of 1972. It is my purpose to suggest to you that, in the circumstances of today, strong support for ballistic missile defense and a willingness to amend substantially, even to withdraw from, the ABM Treaty is a reasonable position--even for those who, like myself, have historically emphasized the central importance of offensive strategic weapons, have seen some value in certain arms control agreements, and did not initially welcome President Reagans Strategic Defense Initiative. The circumstances have changed, and that calls for a substantial change in our assumptions and our policies. In order to make this point, I believe it would be informative to trouble you with a few biographical points. Thirty years ago this fall, as a Captain in the U.S. Army, I was serving as an analyst of strategic programs in the Office of the Secretary of Defense, and in that capacity I was assigned as an advisor on the U.S. delegation to the first round of the SALT I talks in Helsinki. Thus I was a very junior participant in the initial negotiations that led, three years later, to the ABM Treaty. When the treaty was approved by the Senate in 1972 I was the General Counsel of the Senate Armed Services Committee and assisted Senator Stennis in the Committee's consideration of the treaty and the floor debate. Then for three years in the late 1970's, as Under Secretary of the Navy, I was heavily involved in the Navy's strategic force planning, especially for the Trident program, some important aspects of which were influenced by the existence of the treaty. In 1983, I was a member of President Reagan's Commission on Strategic Forces, the Scowcroft Commission (and the principal draftsman of its report); we did not reject SDI when it was announced by the President during the middle of our deliberations, but it is fair to say that the Commission assigned SDI a decidedly secondary role to what we felt to be the nation's central strategic objective: maintaining a survivable and effective offensive deterrent. Following the Reykjavik summit of 1986, I was the co-author of an article in the New York Times Magazine that was highly critical of President Reagan's proposal there to ban all ballistic missiles and rely principally on SDI for our strategic protection. We wrote in the article: ``The official line has become a sort of strategic Manichaeanism: that there exist only the dawn of S.D.I. and the darkness of mutual assured destruction that went before it. The concept of careful and stable deterrence, with modernization of nuclear weapons to improve their survivability, some militarily useful work on defensive systems and moderate arms control, was abandoned.'' One aspect of the approach to strategic issues summarized by this quotation, for many of us in the seventies and eighties, included adherence to the ABM Treaty. But for an important share of the treaty's supporters, acceptance of the treaty was not accompanied by any lapse into revery about the beauty of the concept of mutual assured destruction. It was very far from desirable, for many of us who supported the treaty then, that by agreeing not to deploy nationwide ballistic missile defenses we would thereby guarantee most Soviet missiles a free ride to American targets--quite a few of us never liked the mutual aspect of mutual assured destruction. But we persuaded ourselves then that, nonetheless, the treaty presented the lesser of two evils, for two reasons. First, we were not convinced that the technologies foreseeable in the early seventies, or even through much of the eighties, for ballistic missile defenses were going to spawn deployable systems capable of defending reliably against our major concern--an all-out Soviet attack. Very little else with respect to threats was on anyone's mind. Thus we felt that the U.S. was not giving up something that was practically attainable when it signed on to the treaty. Threats of lesser magnitude, other than the one that came to be posed by Chinese ICBM's, were not apparent in those years. (And for most of this period we were working cooperatively with China against the Soviet Union on a range of issues.) Second, we felt that the massive Soviet lead in large ICBM's equipped with MIRV's, together with its reasonably capable ballistic missile submarine force, put a large share of our own ICBM's and bombers theoretically at risk if the Soviets should ever contemplate launching a first strike in the midst of some crisis. This forced us in our strategic planning to rely heavily on our own ballistic missile submarines as the only truly survivable part of the American nuclear deterrent. Soviet deployment of an early ABM system around Moscow, together with their extensive infrastructure of sophisticated radars and air defense interceptors throughout the country, led some of us to join the you-need-both-a-belt-and-suspenders set. We wanted to ensure that--even if U.S. offensive forces were heavily depleted by a Soviet attack and Soviet defenses were upgraded--the United States' ability to retaliate using submarine-launched missiles alone would be clear and sufficient. We felt that checking Soviet recklessness in a crisis--most likely one in which the Soviets would be able to count on superiority of conventional forces in Europe--heavily depended on this clarity and sufficiency, and that limiting Soviet deployment of even less-than- perfect ABM defenses was extremely important to this end. This thinking seems dated now--to some it was not persuasive even in 1972--and it came to be increasingly questioned after President Reagan's famous 1983 SDI speech. By the nineties it became outdated in almost all of its assumptions due to the end of the cold war, the rise in the possibility of an accidental or unauthorized launch of a ballistic missile by increasingly chaotic Russian military forces, and persistent work on both longer-range and more flexible ballistic missiles and on weapons of mass destruction by rogue states such as North Korea, Iran, and Iraq. My point with respect to the ABM Treaty in today's world is really twofold. First, there is common ground possible, today, between those who have been on different sides of the ABM Treaty debate in the past. Both those who have opposed the treaty for many years (often in company with early support of the more ambitious forms of SDI) and those, such as myself, who supported the treaty during the same period and were skeptical of ambitious SDI, need to realize that what matter, today, are the decisions that now need to be made, not ancient jousts between SDI supporters and ABM Treaty supporters during the era before the fall of the Berlin wall. We may have both been somewhat right and somewhat wrong. It doesn't matter. Together we won the cold war. It's time, indeed past time, to go on to the next set of problems. Second, if one focuses on the strategic realities of today, I would submit that there is no strategic rationale for the ABM Treaty. The old rationale for our wanting to limit Soviet defenses, as spelled out above, does not apply to today's Russia or the Russia of the foreseeable future, even if that nation turns more hostile to the U.S. than it is today. Russia is no longer capable of threatening Europe with many divisions of conventional forces so it would have no advantage in a crisis on that continent. Consequently we do not need to rely in any day-to-day sense on our strategic offensive nuclear forces to protect our NATO allies from Russian conventional attack. Moreover, Russian strategic nuclear forces do not threaten a substantial share of our nuclear deterrent: the deterrent that we do maintain is no longer heavily reliant on fixed land-based ICBM's that might be vulnerable to Russian attack, and hence we have no reason to want to limit Russian defenses to ensure that our retaliatory forces would be able to penetrate Russian defenses. The only rationale for the ABM Treaty today is one rooted in current foreign relations concerns: the Russians do not want us to withdraw from it, so doing so would, presumably, upset them and perhaps lead them to do other things that we don't want. For example, for the umpteenth time they may threaten to refuse to ratify the START II Treaty. But it seems to me there is a limit to the degree to which we should let this sort of thing influence us. The Russians were willing in 1992, following President Yeltsin's remarkable speech in January of that year, to consider substantial revisions to the ABM Treaty and to discuss mutual work on ballistic missile defenses with us. Perhaps this or the next Russian government will prove similarly reasonable in the future. That doesn't look likely today, but it is still worth offering, in my view, to work with the Russians in the way that we began in 1992 and abandoned in 1993. If that proves fruitless there are ample legal and strategic grounds for withdrawing from the treaty. We cannot perpetually let our security vis-a-vis the likes of North Korea, Iran, and Iraq be held hostage to Russia's not wanting us to have defenses. In the meantime, in my judgment, the Senate should not approve the delineation agreement that the Administration has already reached with the Russians, which limits unnecessarily the effectiveness of our theater defenses, nor the accompanying expansion of the treaty to encompass Belarus, Ukraine, and Kazakhstan--a step for which there is not even the most remote strategic rationale. We don't have any reason to want to limit these countries' ballistic missile defenses. Why should we let them have a hand in limiting ours? In my view only a very major modification of, or a withdrawal from, the treaty would meet our strategic needs. Even if one believes that a full defense against an all-out Russian attack is not attainable, the treaty clearly hinders our ability to defend ourselves against a number of lesser and plausible threats during this post-cold war era: rogue states, an accidental launch from Russia, or a launch from China provoked by, e.g., a crisis over Taiwan. As interpreted by, particularly, this Administration, the treaty is even undermining the effectiveness of our theater ballistic missile defenses, systems that are not supposed to be covered by the treaty. A very limited one- or two-site defense of the U.S. of the sort that might be compatible with a treaty that has been only modestly amended, would be essentially worthless against some perfectly plausible threats, such as ship- launched ballistic missiles, that we identified during the deliberations of the Rumsfeld Commission. Indeed against some very plausible threats, such as ballistic missiles carrying clusters of biological weapons that may be released early in the trajectory, only boost-phase intercept from space offers a likely response. In short, Mr. Chairman, the world in which the ABM Treaty was an imperfect, but in my view reasonable, accommodation to the strategic circumstances in which we found ourselves is gone with the wind. In the new world in which we live we now require defenses for our security, and our treaty obligations must be adjusted to serve our strategic needs, not the other way around. Senator Hagel. Mr. Lehman. STATEMENT OF HON. RONALD F. LEHMAN, FORMER DIRECTOR OF THE ARMS CONTROL AND DISARMAMENT AGENCY Secretary Lehman. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Senator Biden. I am honored that you have asked me to come back and appear before the committee again. In particular, I want to thank you and your staff for some flexibility in accommodating my schedule. And in particular, I would like to say that I am honored to be appearing with this particular panel, because I know each of these individuals personally and hold them in the highest regard. I also should emphasize up front that I am only speaking for myself. These are my personal views and are not necessarily the views of any organizations I have been associated with or any past or present administration. They are simply my views. You have asked for my thoughts on the interaction of arms control and ballistic missile defense including some elaboration of how we have tried in the past to enhance the relationship. Today, the importance of this issue is every bit as significant as it was during the cold war, and a vast literature on the subject exists. In general, the public debate for and against ballistic missile defenses, like that on arms control itself, has experienced much oversimplification over the years by both advocates and opponents. Given the complexities involved, it should not be surprising that there have been considerable differences among thoughtful experts as well. Nevertheless, uncertainty has been reduced, and trends are becoming ever more clear. The spread of ballistic missiles has been more rapid than had been widely understood. In this age of globalization and increased cooperation among proliferant states, the missile capabilities of many states, both potential aggressors and those who feel increasingly threatened, is growing. Likewise, the technologies which are at the heart of ballistic missile defense--technologies such as high- performance computing, micro-electronics and sensors--are also advancing rapidly, bringing with them the prospect of more effective defensive systems, especially for advanced post- industrial states. Even in the areas of military doctrine, deterrence theory, and arms control policy, areas in which the residual heat of past debates most often distorts a clearer vision of the future, greater convergence can be detected. Indeed, support for ballistic missile defenses has always existed in some measure across party lines and left and right across the ideological spectrum. The passage of the National Missile Defense Act of 1999 gives hope, but not certainty, that a new consensus may be possible. A process of determining afresh the enduring principles and new realities of arms control and ballistic missile defense is needed. The hearings being held by this committee are an important step in that process. Much has changed, but some of the basics have not changed. Both arms control and ballistic missile defense must be seen in the context of broader national goals and national security strategies. Even within the realm of countering ballistic missile threats, arms control and ballistic missile defenses are themselves additional tools, but not the only tools for enhancing our security. These tools must be integrated with our military forces and doctrine, our technological and industrial prowess, our diplomacy and other components of a multifaceted effort to enhance the Nation's security. Properly integrated, arms control, ballistic missile defenses and the other tools at our disposal all together result in a strategy for which the total is greater than the sum of its parts. Unfortunately, incomplete, disjointed and unbalanced approaches can have the opposite result. Bringing all the parts together effectively is not easy given the complexities among and within nations. There is much that can be said about all of this, but in the interest of providing time for discussion, let me highlight several key judgments: One, ballistic missile defenses, both strategic and theater, can significantly enhance deterrence and crisis stability, increase our military capabilities, protect allies, friends and coalitions, strengthen nonproliferation, support our diplomacy, improve the conditions for peace in troubled regions, and expand the prospects for effective arms control and reductions. The proper balance between offensive and defensive capabilities shifts over time, but the most significant, near- term capabilities missing from our current national security arsenal are defenses against ballistic missiles. Missile defenses do not substitute for a multifaceted national security strategy, but neither does even the most effective multifaceted strategy eliminate the need for deployment of ballistic missile defenses in today's world. Ballistic missile defenses do not eliminate the need for a continuum of military forces, both nuclear and conventional, but they can enhance global and regional deterrence and support our military forces in combat. Deployment of significant ballistic missile defenses is inevitable, but it is not at all inevitable that they will be deployed in time to meet the needs of the United States and its allies and friends. The key to a timely deployment decision remains the early demonstration of success, which in turn requires meaningful program objectives and modern management with dynamic exploitation of technology and competition. That deployments will take longer and cost more than is necessary may result from divisions within the policy community over the proper role of defenses, but the most immediate constraints appear to be those which deny technologists the ability to demonstrate the best that is feasible. The United States should develop its ballistic missile programs primarily to address its own requirements and timeframes, but a better way to proceed is cooperatively with Russia, Israel, Japan and others, recognizing that specific needs, urgency and feasibility differ among nations, and that cooperation on early warning and other theater defenses may be equally vital to many nations. Appropriate treaties, agreements and joint efforts on offensive and/or defensive arms can enhance security and complement the deployment of missile defenses, but failure to adjust to the changed realities that necessitate the deployment of ballistic missile defenses may ultimately prove to be the greatest threat to existing and future arms control agreements as well as to our security. An inability to exploit ballistic missile defenses for a more cooperative approach to international security may deny the United States opportunities for leadership and tension reduction and may perpetuate the corrosive political effects of international relationships too often rhetorically defined in terms of mass mutual hostages. Obviously, not everyone favors the deployment of ballistic missile defense. A serious discussion of the issues will be necessary to broaden support, and a more vigorous marketplace of ideas will help ensure that the gains are maximized and costs minimized. Because such a process must adapt to a world in an uncertain transition, I would be skeptical of any offers of a single true path. Nevertheless, I believe it would be useful to remind everyone that windows of opportunity do open, although sometimes not clearly and not for long. The situation as it played out in 1992 offers a number of insights. With the breakup of the Soviet Union, the cold war began to wind down, leaving behind many legacy issues with which we are still dealing. The political changes suggested opportunities for Russia and the United States to work together to build a stronger, safer basis for their common security. Each recognized that the world had changed dramatically, yet each was uncertain how much cooperation would be possible and how much of the old relationship would or should remain. As interactions with Russia improved and as both sides cut back on their military preoccupation with the other, the United States modified its planned ballistic missile defenses and, interestingly, Russian showed greater interest in cooperating on ballistic missile defense. At the same time, the two nations continued with the most comprehensive arms control accomplishments ever achieved. I should add that Ambassador Woolsey was very helpful in quite a number of those. We did not always agree on each and every issue, but I still commend him. It took a bipartisan effort to pull together that remarkable arms control revolution. Senator Biden. Mr. Secretary, it looks like you got him now, though. Secretary Lehman. We keep working on him. It is never easy. In September 1991---- Senator Biden. He has gone over. Secretary Lehman. In September 1991, soon after the Moscow coup, President Bush had called for cooperation on defenses. A month later, Soviet President Gorbachev announced his support for discussions on such cooperation, a direction given greater weight when, in January 1992, President Yeltsin proposed joint United States-Russian cooperation on a ``global protective system.'' Focusing on the effort to ensure that the dissolution of the Soviet Union remained peaceful, joint decisions on defense cooperation awaited the Moscow Summit of June 1992, which created a group of experts to discuss cooperation on early warning, cooperation on technologies, nonproliferation and the legal basis for a Global Protection System, the United States having adopted the name proposed by the Russians. During those discussions, I presented the U.S. case for an amended ABM Treaty, proposals that were subsequently presented in greater detail in the Standing Consultative Commission. The U.S. view was that circumstances had changed and that an opportunity now presented itself for creating a security relationship more suitable to friends. Central to this new relationship was exploring cooperation in protecting both of our populations from attack, rather than collaborating to maximize their vulnerability to mass destruction. Cooperation on early warning, missile defense and nonproliferation seemed preferable to a preoccupation with mass destruction rhetoric that would inevitably poison our political relations. This did not involve the abandonment of deterrents or the abolition of nuclear forces. Instead, this approach was designed to promote nonproliferation and enhance security and stability by defending against small attacks, whatever the source. In addition to the radical geopolitical changes taking place, technological advances had blurred distinctions between ABM systems on the one hand and early warning, command and control, air defense missiles and theater ballistic missile defenses on the other hand. Advances in technology had already vastly complicated the clarity of categories and confidence in compliance. Yet many of the systems now in tension with the ABM Treaty were for other vital missions not ABM related. In particular, because sensors are so important to early warning, national technical means of verification, and conventional forces, we proposed that sensors run free, that we agree not to make them an issue between our two countries. The United States also proposed more extensive ABM deployments than those permitted by the ABM Treaty as originally signed in 1972. Russia has 100 interceptors deployed around Moscow, but the original treaty permitted 200 at two sites and additional interceptors at several additional test sites. The United States offered to forego a decision on space- based interceptors in the context of an agreement to increase the number of ground-based interceptors to cover the entire United States to a planned level of effectiveness. Russia could do the same. In short, the American position held that the ABM Treaty was broken, but the United States was prepared to fix it in the context of changes that would increase the security of both countries and others. Given that threats already emerging were beyond the control of either Russia or the United States, we were not prepared to let considerations of the ABM Treaty ultimately require us to sacrifice our security and that of our allies and friends, including Russia, who might be threatened by ballistic missiles. Likewise, we sought the broadest cooperation and were prepared to negotiate restraints, but we would not permit a veto over necessary deployments. Mr. Chairman, admittedly, this is a cursory coverage of what are very complex issues. I have written on this and spoken on this many times over the years. There are two statements that I gave extemporaneously that were subsequently punished that I might offer for the record, if you wish, in which you---- Senator Biden. Published? Secretary Lehman. What is that? Senator Biden. Did you say punished or published? Secretary Lehman. Published. Did I say punished? Senator Biden. Oh, you said punished. Freudian slip. Secretary Lehman. It is hard to punish. They were subsequently published and as remarks that took place in those times, so you can get a little flavor for what was actually happening at the time. And I offer these for the record, if you wish. Senator Hagel. We will include those in the record. [The material referred to follows Secretary Lehman's prepared statement.] Secretary Lehman. Then, Mr. Chairman, I will conclude my remarks at that point. Thank you. Senator Hagel. Mr. Lehman, Thank you. [The prepared statement of Secretary Lehman follows:] Prepared Statement of Hon. Ronald F. Lehman Mr. Chairman, Distinguished Members of the Committee on Foreign Relations: I am honored that you have asked me to appear again before this Committee to exchange ideas. I wish also to thank you for your kindness in accommodating my schedule. Up front, let me make clear that these are strictly my own views. I do not speak for any other person or for any organization, program, or Administration with which I have been or am now associated. You have asked for my thoughts on the interaction of arms control and ballistic missile defense including some elaboration of how we have tried in the past to enhance the relationship. Today, the importance of this issue is every bit as significant as it was during the Cold War and a vast literature on the subject exists. In general, the public debate for and against ballistic missile defenses, like that on arms control itself, has experienced much oversimplification over the years by both advocates and opponents. Given the complexities involved, it should not be surprising that there have been considerable differences among thoughtful experts as well. Nevertheless, uncertainty has been reduced and trends are becoming ever more clear. The spread of ballistic missiles has been more rapid than had been widely understood. In this age of globalization and increased cooperation among proliferant states, the missile capabilities of many states--both potential aggressors and those who feel increasingly threatened--is growing. Likewise, the technologies which are at the heart of ballistic missile defense--technologies such as high performance computing, microelectronics, and sensors--are also advancing rapidly, bringing with them the prospect of more effective defensive systems especially for advanced, post-industrial states. Even in the areas of military doctrine, deterrence theory, and arms control policy--areas in which the residual heat of past debates most often distorts a clearer vision of the future--greater convergence can be detected. Indeed, support for ballistic missile defenses has always existed in some measure across party lines and left and right across the ideological spectrum. The passage of the National Missile Defense Act of 1999 gives hope, but not certainty, that a new consensus may be possible. A process of determining afresh the enduring principles and new realities of arms control and ballistic missile defense is needed. The hearings being held by this Committee are an important step in that process. Much has changed, but some of the basics have not changed. Both arms control and ballistic missile defense must be seen in the context of broader national goals and national security strategies. Even within the realm of countering ballistic missile threats, arms control and ballistic missile defenses are themselves additional tools, but not the only tools for enhancing our security. These tools must be integrated with our military forces and doctrine, our technological and industrial prowess, our diplomacy, and other components of a multifaceted effort to enhance the nation's security. Properly integrated, arms control, ballistic missile defenses, and the other tools at our disposal all together result in a strategy for which the total is greater than the sum of its parts. Unfortunately, incomplete, disjointed, and unbalanced approaches can have the opposite result. Bringing all of the parts together effectively is not easy given the complexities among and within nations. There is much that can be said about all of this, but in the interest of providing time for discussion let me highlight several key judgments: (1) Ballistic missile defenses--both strategic and theater-- can significantly enhance deterrence and crisis stability, increase our military capabilities, protect allies, friends, and coalitions, strengthen nonproliferation, support our diplomacy, improve the conditions for peace in troubled regions, and expand the prospects for effective arms control and reductions. (2) The proper balance between offensive and defensive capabilities shifts over time, but the most significant, near term capabilities missing from our current national security arsenal are defenses against ballistic missiles. (3) Missile defenses do not substitute for a multifaceted national security strategy, but, neither does even the most effective multifaceted strategy eliminate the need for deployment of missile defenses in today's world. (4) Ballistic missile defenses do not eliminate the need for a continuum of military forces, both nuclear and conventional, but they can enhance global and regional deterrence and support our military forces in combat. (5) Deployment of significant ballistic missile defenses is inevitable; but it is not at all inevitable that they will be deployed in time to meet the needs of the United States and its allies and friends. (6) The key to a timely deployment decision remains the early demonstration of success, which in turn requires meaningful program objectives and modern management with dynamic exploitation of technology and competition. (7) That deployments will take longer and cost more than is necessary may result from divisions within the policy community over the proper role of missile defenses, but the most immediate constraints appear to be those which deny technologists the ability to demonstrate the best that is feasible. (8) The U.S. should develop its ballistic missile programs primarily to address its own requirements and time frames, but a better way to proceed is cooperatively with Russia, Israel, Japan, and others, recognizing that specific needs, urgency, and feasibility differ among nations and that cooperation on early warning and other theater defenses may be equally vital to many nations. (9) Appropriate treaties, agreements, and joint efforts on offensive and/or defensive arms can enhance security and complement the deployment of missile defenses, but failure to adjust to the changed realities that necessitate the deployment of ballistic missile defenses may ultimately prove to be the greatest threat to existing and future arms control agreements as well as to our security. (10) An inability to exploit ballistic missile defenses for a more cooperative approach to international security may deny the United States opportunities for leadership and tension reduction and may perpetuate the corrosive political effects of international relationships too often rhetorically defined in terms of mass mutual hostages. Obviously, not everyone favors the deployment of ballistic missile defenses. A serious discussion of the issues will be necessary to broaden support, and a more vigorous marketplace of ideas will help insure that the gains are maximized and costs minimized. Because such a process must adapt to a world in uncertain transition, I would be skeptical of any offers of a single, true path. Nevertheless, I believe it would be useful to remind everyone that windows of opportunity do open, although sometimes not clearly and not for long. The situation as it played out in 1992 offers a number of insights. With the breakup of the Soviet Union, the Cold War began to wind down leaving behind many legacy issues with which we are still dealing. The political changes suggested opportunities for Russia and the United States to work together to build a stronger, safer basis for their common security. Each recognized that the world had changed dramatically, yet each was uncertain how much cooperation would be possible and how much of the old relationship would or should remain. As interactions with Russia improved, and as both sides cut back on their military preoccupation with the other, the United States modified its planned ballistic missile defenses and, interestingly, Russia showed greater interest in cooperating on ballistic missile defense. At the same time, the two nations continued with the most comprehensive arms control accomplishments ever achieved.\1\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ During the period in which the Cold War was waning and the United States was moving toward deployment of ballistic missile defenses, the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty and Protocol (START I), the U.S./Russian Joint Understanding and START II Treaty eliminating multiple-warhead land-based missiles were signed. Agreements with the Soviet Union were concluded on the Prevention of Dangerous Military Activities; on a Bilateral Verification Experiment and Data Exchange Related to the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons; on Destruction and Non- production of Chemical Weapons; and on Implementing Trial Verification and Stability Measures of the Treaty on the Reduction and Limitation of Strategic Offensive Arms. The verification Protocols to the Threshold Test Ban Treaty and the Peaceful Nuclear Explosions Treaty were also signed and the Treaties ratified during this period. Multilateral agreements completed include the Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe (CFE); the 1991 and 1992 Vienna Agreements on Confidence- and Security-Building Measures (CSBMs); the Treaty on the Final Settlement with Respect to Germany; the Open Skies Treaty, and Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC). --------------------------------------------------------------------------- In September of 1991, soon after the Moscow Coup, President Bush had called for cooperation on defenses. A month later, Soviet President Gorbachev announced his support for discussions on such cooperation, a direction given greater weight when, in January of 1992, President Yeltsin proposed joint U.S.-Russian cooperation on a ``global protective system.'' Focusing on the effort to ensure that the dissolution of the Soviet Union remained peaceful, joint decisions on defense cooperation awaited the Moscow Summit of June, 1992, which created a group of experts to discuss cooperation on early warning, cooperation on technologies, nonproliferation, and the legal basis for a Global Protection System, the U.S. having adopted the name proposed by the Russians. During those discussions, I presented the U.S. case for an amended ABM Treaty, proposals that were subsequently presented in greater detail in the Standing Consultative Commission. The U.S. view was that circumstances had changed and that an opportunity now presented itself for creating a security relationship more suitable to friends. Central to this new relationship was exploring cooperation in protecting both of our populations from attack, rather than collaborating to maximize their vulnerability to mass destruction. Cooperation on early warning, missile defense, and nonproliferation seemed preferable to a preoccupation with mass destruction rhetoric that would inevitably poison our political relations. This did not involve the abandonment of deterrence or the abolition of nuclear forces. Instead, this approach was designed to promote nonproliferation and enhance security and stability by defending against small attacks, whatever the source. In addition to the radical geopolitical changes taking place, technological advances had blurred distinctions between ABM systems on the one hand and early warning, command and control, air defense missiles, and theater ballistic missile defenses on the other hand. Advances in technology had already vastly complicated the clarity of categories and confidence in compliance. Yet many of the systems now in tension with the ABM Treaty were for other vital missions not ABM related. In particular, because sensors are so important to early warning, national technical means of verification, and conventional forces, we proposed that sensors run free--that we agree not to make them an issue between our two countries. The United States also proposed more extensive ABM deployments than those permitted by the ABM Treaty as originally signed in 1972. Russia has 100 interceptors deployed around Moscow, but the original treaty permitted 200 at two sites and additional interceptors at several additional test sites. The United States offered to forego a decision on space based interceptors in the context of an agreement to increase the number of ground based interceptors to cover the entire United States to a planned level of effectiveness. Russia could do the same. In short, the American position held that the ABM Treaty was broken, but the U.S. was prepared to fix it in the context of changes that would increase the security of both countries and others. Given that threats already emerging were beyond the control of either Russia or the United States, we were not prepared to let considerations of the ABM Treaty ultimately require us to sacrifice our security and that of allies and friends, including Russia, who might be threatened by ballistic missiles. Likewise, we sought the broadest cooperation and were prepared to negotiate restraints, but we would not permit a veto over necessary deployments. Mr. Chairman, admittedly, this is a very cursory discussion of a complex subject, and I have had time to address briefly only one historic example of how the United States has proposed to harmonize arms control and ballistic missile defenses in the interest of international security. Elsewhere, I have discussed these issues in greater detail. If you wish, I would be prepared to submit for the record two publications that contain statements I made in 1992 and 1996 elaborating on exactly the questions you have asked me to address today. Again, I welcome this opportunity to explore with the Committee in greater detail exactly why deployment of ballistic missile defenses has become necessary to: Enhance deterrence and crisis stability, Increase our military capabilities, Protect allies, friends, and coalitions, Strengthen nonproliferation, Support U.S. diplomacy, Improve the conditions for peace in troubled regions, and Expand the prospects for effective arms control and reductions. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. ______ [Remarks, November 1992, published 1993] Changing Realities (Ronald F. Lehman II) The development of a consensus for a strategic defense initiative (SDI) is at the cutting edge of national security, foreign policy, and arms control strategy. This is a time when we need to be probing and engaging some of the difficult issues that we have faced over the years. This article highlights where we have been going and discusses specific events that have been taking place with respect to developing a concept for defenses against ballistic missile attack. Truly, the world is in transition. We are entering the post-cold war era. Increasingly we have seen not only our foreign policy and national security strategy move away from preoccupation with the East- West military balance, but also we have seen this occur in arms control. The coup attempt in Moscow in August 1991 in many ways encapsulated and symbolized those trends. The coup's failure was another sign that the cold war was over and the traditional military threat to NATO in Western Europe was diminishing rapidly. And now, we have the possibility of entering into a new world in which we may be cooperating with the countries of Eastern Europe, and subsequently with the countries that have emerged out of the Soviet Union, to enhance our security, prosperity, and freedom together. This has had a tremendous impact on how we think about arms control. Before the August 1991 coup attempt, we looked at Soviet military forces in terms of the traditional threat, and we had just completed what some call a ``traditional arms control treaty''--START (Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty). At that time, there was intense concern over the question of accidental or unauthorized launch of ballistic missiles, and a preoccupation with the question of the nonproliferation implications of the turmoil in Eurasia. soviet dissolution raises security concerns When the Soviet Union began to break up, we were faced with a serious nonproliferation question: what happens when a nuclear weapons state breaks up? Does that portend the emergence of additional nuclear weapons states and, if so, what are the implications for our security? We also saw another aspect of the problem. In the turmoil caused by the Soviet breakup, we were increasingly concerned over the control of nuclear weapons, technologies, and material, including fissile material. We were concerned about the future of scientists, engineers, and technicians, who might find, in the economic and political difficulties they were experiencing in their own countries, an opportunity to go abroad and become involved in the development of nuclear, biological, chemical, or ballistic missile programs in other countries that posed a proliferation threat. We quickly began to address these issues with the former republics of the Soviet Union, particularly with Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, and Belarus. We made significant efforts to prevent proliferation overall, both through export control and political policy. Another effort dealt with the question of the traditional arms control agreements as we had known them. For example, we all think of START as dealing with offensive force reductions, but we took that agreement and turned it into an important tool for nonproliferation. In the context of the Lisbon Protocol, we were able to get agreement from the three former republics, other than Russia, which have nuclear weapons on their territory, to become non-nuclear weapon states under the Non-proliferation Treaty (NPT). The Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe (CFE), likewise, was turned from a treaty to deal with offensive ground threats to NATO in the NATO/Warsaw Pact context into a regional security structure. The treaty helped bring stability through the reallocation of conventional forces within the former Soviet Union. One area of cooperation that has not received much attention, but which has important arms control dimensions, is U.S.-Russian cooperation in ballistic missile defenses. President Mikhail Gorbachev first talked about the possibility of cooperating in the area of early warning in 1991. The United States had clearly stated for a number of years, in the defense and space negotiations, in the Standing Consultative Commission, and in all of our bilateral dealings with the Soviet Union, that we saw an increased need for strategic ballistic missile defenses. We saw the possibility of moving to a better, safer world with greater reliance on defenses. We said we intended to do that when the programs were available that would provide for that enhanced security. However, we also always said we were prepared to consider a cooperative approach, a cooperative transition. From the outset of our negotiations with the Soviet Union in the mid-1980s on strategic defenses, it was very difficult to find common ground between our two countries. Now, in the post-cold war period, we have the tremendous potential for developing common ground. In January 1992, President Boris Yeltsin talked about U.S.-Russian cooperation in a global protection system. We viewed that as a very important step, and we have sought to engage Russia to develop this concept, one that deals not only with our two countries, but also with our NATO allies and other allies and friends around the world. As we have elaborated our own system for limited defenses--known as ``Global Protection Against Limited Strikes'' (GPALS) and consisting of a number of approaches to interceptors, both anti-tactical ballistic missiles (ATBMs), ground-based anti-ballistic missile (ABM) interceptors and eventually space-based interceptors (SBIs), and a wide variety of sensors, we have seen that there are increased areas where we could cooperate. For example, we could cooperate in national ballistic missile defense programs, and in the end many nations of the world would gain the benefit of this technology for enhancing their security as well as ours. security talks underway We have begun to engage Russia on this issue. The instrumental step was taken at the June 1992 Summit in Washington when Presidents George Bush and Boris Yeltsin agreed to begin a process through high-level discussions to develop a cooperative approach to a Global Protection System (GPS), highlighting not only early warning and cooperation in the development of the technologies, but also establishing the legal basis for GPS. This means that the question of the legal basis for such a system has to take into account the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile (ABM) Treaty. The U.S.-Russian high-level group established by the two presidents met in July and September 1992. That group is known informally as the Ross-Mamedov Group. The two delegations established working groups to deal with the overall GPS concept, with technical cooperation, and with nonproliferation. The United States and Russia are also discussing the legal basis for GPS. The relationship between the ABM Treaty and the legal basis for GPS has to be viewed in light of changing circumstances, particularly since the ABM Treaty was negotiated in 1972. The great debates over offense/ defense relationships have been transformed by those developments. Whereas, in earlier periods we spent much time debating overall strategic stability and the question of the offense/defense relationship, in today's cooperative world we are looking at limited ballistic missile defense systems to deal with limited threats. The U.S. concept for its GPALS system, which would contribute to an overall GPS, is a limited system. What are the implications of the ABM Treaty for a limited system? Over the years, largely because the United States deactivated its own ABM system, which was deployed for only a very short period, the impression has been left that the ABM Treaty bans ABM interceptors and ABM systems. In fact, it permits them. The ABM Treaty, as signed in 1972, actually permitted 200 interceptors in addition to test and training launchers. As a result of the 1974 Protocol to the ABM Treaty, that number of permitted interceptors was reduced to 100 at one deployed site, with a number of additional launchers at test ranges. Russia has ABM interceptors deployed around the Moscow area. Therefore, the treaty, as originally concluded in 1972, provided for additional numbers of ABM interceptors, exceeding the number presently deployed by Russia and well above those of the United States, because we have none. The ABM Treaty approached defenses from the point of view of managing limited systems. It also had a broader philosophical basis, dealing with the question of area defenses, protecting retaliatory capability. There was a fear that ABM systems might deny the retaliatory capability of either of the two sides, which could be destabilizing. However, in the new cooperative era of today, we believe the time has come to look at the ABM Treaty from the point of view of cooperating in the protection of our citizens, rather than collaborating to maximize their vulnerability. The ABM Treaty has to reflect this new political reality. That is not to say that only the political reality is changing. The technical reality has been changing as well. Increasingly it has become more difficult to distinguish between surface-to-air missiles (SAMs) against aircraft and anti-tactical ballistic missiles (ATBMs) and ABM systems. Many of the SAM systems deployed today have certain characteristics that would have thrilled ABM designers in the 1960s. Technology is making it more difficult to distinguish between interceptors' roles that once were believed to be clear cut. The same is true for sensors. Modern electronics, communications, and sensor technology make it more difficult to say what does and what does not have an ABM capability. A related issue illustrates how difficult this has become: the controversy over the Krasnoyarsk large phased-array radar. We were dealing with large phased-array radars in the ABM Treaty, saying they should be on the periphery of national territory and oriented outward to minimize their utility as ABM radars. The existence of the Krasnoyarsk radar complicated the consideration of this issue, but it was simple compared to the kinds of issues that will emerge when you have modern data links of the type that exist today, which have already begun to raise questions of compliance. multilateral world increases threats In addition to changes in technologies, and changes and distinctions between interceptors and sensors, there are changes that result from the political upheavals taking place. For example, in the republics of the former Soviet Union, one finds that the former Soviet ABM system is now spread among a number of independent sovereign countries. The interceptors are in Russia, but not all the testing sites, nor all development facilities, nor all the sensors. Indeed, not all ABM facilities are even in the Commonwealth of Independent States. Thus, we have been talking about the ABM Treaty as a bilateral treaty existing in what is increasingly becoming a multilateral world. This introduces additional complications. On the other hand, when you look at the Global Protection System, which will ultimately develop in a multilateral way, there are certain realities that can be seen unfolding in the context of the ABM Treaty. The bottom line really is that the ABM Treaty has to evolve to take into account technical and political changes if it is to continue to be of use to the United States, Russia, and the rest of the world. It has to take into account the need, with the new proliferation threats, to protect our citizens. How can it do that? From our point of view, it has to permit the deployment of our GPALS system. That means it would have to address a number of issues: First is the question of deployments. The United States does not have any deployed ABMs, but the ABM Treaty as originally signed would have permitted 200 interceptors as well as 15 additional launchers at test sites. Our GPALS would be several times that size in ground-based interceptors, and we envisage space-based interceptors in the future. We have to address those issues. However, to get there, we would have to develop the systems and test them, and right now we have difficulty with the ABM Treaty because it puts constraints on our testing program. We need relief from the treaty so that we and others can, as part of our efforts to move ahead and provide protection to our citizens, do the testing required. ABM Treaty relief involves the question of sensors. Many of the compliance issues of the ABM Treaty have to do with the very difficult issue of knowing what is or is not an ABM sensor. The time has come to address this question in light of the newly cooperative world. We also need to ensure that there are no doubts that the ABM Treaty does not cover ATBM systems. And we need to ensure that ATBM systems are not constrained or delayed because of debates over whether they are or are not ABM systems. Finally, we also need to deal with the question of technology transfer, because the ABM Treaty is a bilateral treaty and it prohibits the transfer of ABM technology to other states. This creates a fundamental tension with the concept of a cooperative global protection system that involves a number of countries. In summary, the time has come to cooperate in protecting our citizens rather than collaborating in maximizing their vulnerability. This is the reality of the new world. The technologies exist that would permit us to do this, but under the ABM Treaty those technologies are constrained and the process can be delayed. We need relief from those constraints. Like our other arms control agreements, the ABM Treaty needs to evolve to reflect new realities if it is to continue. We must always remember that arms control is an important policy tool, indeed a tool we must use in our interests and the interests of our friends around the world, including our new friends. However, we have to use arms control effectively, and that means it has to be flexible enough to accommodate the realities of the new world. ______ [Proceedings, Carnegie Endowment, Seminar--February 14, 1996] START II, Missile Non-Proliferation, and Missile Defense--The Offense- Defense Relationship: Past and Future (Remarks by the Honorable Ronald F. Lehman II) As one who participated in the START negotiating process from beginning to end. I am pleased to join with so many of you, both from the United States and Russia, who helped make these historic agreements possible. I see many familiar faces, but it is perhaps just as important that I see so many new faces. The negotiation of the START treaties took place not so many years ago, but most of the original cast of these dramas has moved on to new roles and others have taken their place. Unlike the quick action taken on the INF Treaty, the entry into force of the START treaties was not immediate. During many months of rapid change, this delay has introduced to the contemporary stage a significant number of new players. For that reason, I would like to concentrate my remarks less on the debates in their current style than on the ideas which inspired us in the past and the visions we had then of the future. My assigned task of looking at the relationship of strategic offensive and defensive weapons systems in the context both of further arms reductions and of the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction is actually facilitated by this distance from the current debate. the early history of offense and defense Just as arms control is inseparable from national security, so offense and defense are inseparable in the consideration of military strategy. This has always been so. Throughout the history of warfare, one can see periods in which tactics or technology favored the offense or favored the defense, but some optimal mix evolved in each era. Offensive action could apply force for political gain, but it could also be used for defense or for retribution against aggression. Defenses could blunt an attack, but adopting defensive positions on part of the battle front was also a means for both aggressor and victim to concentrate their forces elsewhere. Along with this economy of force role, defenses also provided early warning and attack assessment as each sought to stage decisive action on its own terms. Even in the age of great fortifications, when the defense was said to be dominant, defensive operations served primarily to delay, dissipate, and channel an attack to a time and location where the advancing forces would be at a disadvantage. The successful defenders of great castles may have, on a few occasions, actually engaged in little combat from behind the protection of their ramparts before a siege was lifted. Ultimately, however, they had to sally forth to reclaim their land after exhaustion, attrition, or fear of diminished prospects for victory had caused the attacker to fall back on its own defenses. Indeed, aggression abroad was not often risked without secure fortifications at home. This is not to say that the balance between offense and defense has no bearing on the likelihood and intensity of war. It does. During the age of the great fortified cities in Europe warfare was still frequent, but usually limited and highly ritualized with rules of engagement which minimized casualties. As trench warfare demonstrated in World War I, however, increased use of defensive tactics did not always mean that the loss of life was minimized. Likewise, in the world's military histories, bold offensive action is as much associated with limited casualties as it is with massive slaughter and long periods of peace were associated with powerful empires which tolerated no resistance. In short, strong defenses could be both stabilizing and essential to sound military doctrine, but the price of war was determined more by the causes of conflict, the character of man, and the correlation of forces than by the mere preference of offense or defense dominance. And, finally, although defensive action always played some role, the offense or threat of it brought hostilities to an end. This ``spirit of the offense'' came to dominate military thinking in the age of Clausewitz. As technology has made weapons more and more destructive, this concept of war as an extension of rational political competition was frequently combined with a more pacific notion that weapons had become so horrible that rational war could not be contemplated. Nobel's dynamite, artillery, the machine gun, the submarine, the Zeppelin, the airplane, poison gas, however, all proved insufficiently horrible to guarantee peace. This reflection of the extension of violence as the heart of warfare rather than as the basis for peace has inspired many commentators to prefer defense dominance, indeed, to advocate worlds in which all states would have a minimum of offensive force relative to the defenses of their neighbors. In some cases, this distinction between offensive and defensive force has been carried over into distinctions among weapons. One can read of armies that went to war with only swords. One does not read of armies going to war with only shields. One can understand a logic for peace in which the former would be banned and the latter become a safeguard against aggression. The necessary distinction, however, has not stood the test of time for a number of reasons. Certainly, few defensive weapons have no offensive capability. The soldier with only a shield may sling it at his enemy or use it as a bludgeon. Infantrymen even distinguish between offensive and defensive hand grenades (actually, the offensive grenade has less shrapnel because it is used by troops moving in the open against troops confined in bunkers and foxholes). Second, defensive arms like defense itself serve to complement the offense. Thus, traditional military strategy has also required a mix of weapons which were either predominantly offensive or defensive. The coming of the thermonuclear age reopened this debate once more. Early on, fear of the society-destroying capability of nuclear weapons led to great investments in air defenses to defeat aircraft armed with nuclear weapons. Defensive interceptors themselves were even armed with nuclear weapons. Early declaratory nuclear policies stressed damage limitation, but defenses against ballistic missiles fell well behind the accumulation of huge arsenals of nuclear warheads on the intercontinental ballistic missiles of the superpowers although perhaps not behind those of lesser nuclear powers such as China. The absence of large-scale defenses in the face of overwhelming offensive nuclear capability highlighted the ultimate vulnerability of both sides. The expense of nation-wide defenses to counter such large threats and the certainty that they would not be leak proof increased pressures to limit offensive arms. In this content, the United States and the Soviet Union began their negotiations on strategic arms limitations (SALT). The centerpiece of the SALT I package in 1972, however, was the Anti-Ballistic Missile (ABM) Treaty, a treaty which itself limited defensive not offensive arms. The ABM Treaty was justified through argumentation that mutual vulnerability was stabilizing. Although the original goal of a treaty capping the growth of offensive arms was not achieved, an Interim Agreement on offensive arms did limit numbers of silo launchers, submarine launch tubes, and even ballistic missile submarines. It did not limit warheads, however, but the existence of the new ABM Treaty was said to reduce incentives to deploy more warheads. This incentive was sweetened when the 1974 Protocol to the ABM Treaty halved the number of permitted defensive interceptors and deployment sites and also when the United States closed its only ABM site a few months after it had finally become operational. Interestingly, during the initial SALT negotiations, it was the Soviet Union, far more than the United States, that questioned why one would want to limit defenses. And it was the United States which stressed linkage between the future of the ABM Treaty and further reductions in nuclear arms, albeit, in the opposite direction from that Moscow has proposed in resent years. Yet, the consequent SALT II, like SALT I, permitted and codified a massive increase in strategic warheads despite the scarcity of ABM systems and despite the emergence of large numbers of gray area theater nuclear weapons such as the Soviet SS-20 Intermediate Range Ballistic Missile and the Backfire bomber. As NATO prepared to respond to the SS-20 with its own INF missiles, the West became polarized over nuclear modernization. At the risk of some oversimplification, one could say that one school believed that enough was enough whatever the Soviet Union had. The other school sought to redress the imbalance it perceived. The first school became supportive of a freeze on modernization. The second group proposed a dual track of modernization and the negotiations of reductions to enhance stability. The debate was over offensive arms. Both sides advocated fewer, although they disagreed on how to achieve their goal. At the height of the nuclear freeze movement, I participated in a debate in a church in San Antonio, Texas. The Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives at that time, himself a Texan, had just appeared and announced his support for a nuclear freeze. I was a junior U.S. government official defending the NATO deployments against the freeze when my debate opponent, a retired U.S. Army major general, changed the subject briefly. What the world really needed, he said, was defenses against missiles. The audience, clearly in favor of the freeze, roared in approval of strategic defenses. This was some weeks before President Reagan announced his Strategic Defense Initiative in March, 1983. The freeze debate faded away as the United States revisited the question of the role of defenses. Political polarization did not disappear, but new constellations of vociferous advocates and opponents did appear including hawks together with doves on each side of the issue--Edward Teller and Freeman Dyson favoring defenses, while mainstream thinkers and even the uniformed military seemed split on the issue. the debates in the 1980's The debates of the 1980s were fascinating, although initially there was confussion, misinformation, and rhetoric on both sides of the question. Sometimes there was not much clear thinking even on the theoretical level. Let me give you just one example, the debate over Mutual Assured Destruction (MAD) versus Mutual Assured Survival (MAS), again at the risk of oversimplification. If you took the people who thought they favored each of those positions, set them down, and asked what nuclear targeting doctrine was associated with their concept of defenses, the most common answer for both sides was countervalue targeting, or as some would say, city-busting. Absent absolutely leak proof defenses, both sides were still talking about populations being targeted with tremendous loss of life and destruction. Those who favored defenses were arguing, in essence, that defenses might save millions of lives. Those opposed to defenses favored greater certainty of the most massive destruction to enhance deterrence. The bottomline for both sides was an emphasis on the targeting of population per se. For much of the national security community, however, the focus was different. That community recognized the ultimate countervalue effects of a strategic nuclear exchange, but this community focused more on its own differences, differences concerning the impact of strategic defenses on the military balance and thus stability. Here most experts also fell into two schools. One school basically believed defenses favor the aggressor. Here's why: He who launches his missiles first will overwhelm an opponent's defense with numbers. If an aggressor conducts a disarming first strike against an adversary's retaliatory force, and the remnant of that retaliatory force then faces the alerted defenses of the aggressor, the aggressor has gained leverage in both offense and defense. Hundreds of computer runs were made based upon this assumption. Thus, they often concluded that even if the offense and defense were equal and symmetrical on both sides, defenses would be destabilizing. On the other side of this issue, experts were doing their computer runs. And their approach was different: ``He who shoots first in order to disarm has a harder targeting requirement than he who simply must retaliate in order to inflict unacceptable pain.'' If the initiator of the war must have high confidence of counterforce success in detail to avoid unacceptable retribution, defenses can so complicate the disarming first strike that under almost all calculations, they are stabilizing. In summary, the nuclear policy debate in the 1980s seemed bogged down in debates over perfection. The primary public debate concerned whether anything less than perfect defense was sufficient--that is, whether to defend anyone if everyone could not be defended, and against every threat. The primary debate among defense intellectuals was whether even the most imperfect defenses might encourage too much nuclear self confidence to be stabilizing. compromise conceptualized In the middle of this debate, the United States was confronted by the Soviet Union in bilateral negotiations even as research and development programs were going forward. When the nuclear arms talks resumed in Geneva in 1985, the Soviet Union sought linkage between the INF issue, the START issue, and the co-called Defense and Space issue. The United States recognized that there were interrelationships, but did not want any one negotiation held hostage to another. The United States and the Soviet Union agreed to a format that covered both sides' interpretations of what the proper relationship should be. This resulted in odd shaped tables and strange protocols. The gist of the Soviet Union's position was that there could be no START Treaty unless the United States solved Soviet problems with INF and Defense and Space. Early on, we were able to agree to proceed with the lNF Treaty, and later we were able to work out a form of delinkage on START. I want to remind everyone in the room, however, that the U.S. position was always that everything was interrelated. The U.S. did not think there ought to be any formal linkage of agreements, but in fact, in the context of those negotiations, the Reagan Administration at various times had conceptualized a number of compromises across agreements. The U.S. position usually stressed delinkage of most issues, but the U.S. position sometimes included variations of the so- called ``grand compromise''--``you give us something on offense, and we'll give you something on defense.'' Sometimes, the U.S. position also had certain aspects of what I call the ``green light'' compromise, according to which the United States would not accept certain provisions in an offensive agreement unless is were given something favoring defenses. One finds examples of all of these approaches in the U.S. negotiating position, sometimes all at the same time. gpals initiative in 1991 New political circumstances, geopolitical agreements, and strategic calculations appeared rapidly at the end of the 1980s. In January 1991, in the context of improved relations between the United States and the Soviet Union, President Bush proposed a different, much more limited approach to strategic defenses. This lead people to rethink what would be needed in the post Cold War era to enhance security and still have a stable relationship with the then Soviet Union. President Bush proposed the so-called GPALS system (Global Protection Against Limited Strikes) which was downscaled tremendously from the Phase I Joint Chiefs of Staff requirements for the original Strategic Defense Initiative. Those requirements, at least in their original absolute numbers, had already been achieved by START I. cooperation on defenses; abm revision talks--1992 The initiation of the GPALS program was followed by a series of rapid and major international developments. The completion of START I and a few weeks later the failed coup in Moscow suggested that cooperation between Washington and Moscow should be enhanced. In September 1991, President Bush called for cooperation on defenses. The United States also announced that it would be eliminating all of its tactical nuclear artillery and many other tactical nuclear weapons. ln October of 1991, President Gorbachev announced that he too believed cooperation on defenses should be discussed. By January of the next year, President Yeltsin of Russia made a bold proposal that the United States and Russia work together to bring about a cooperative, global protective system. In that same positive environment, the United States agreed to talk also about START II, a step Washington had believed was premature prior to the recent political changes. START II began to weigh very heavily upon everything we were doing. START II was seen as a way of strenthening the foundation for a cooperative future both in limiting offensive arms and cooperative defenses. Obviously some form of interrelationship would emerge, given the history of the negotiations and also the new opportunities for cooperation. In the final statement of the June 1992 Summit, Russia and the United States agreed that a group of experts, the so-called Ross- Mamedov group, would discuss cooperation on early warning, cooperation on technologies for defense, nonproliferation, and the legal basis for a Global Protection System (GPS), including any changes which might be necessary to retain the existing treaties, including the ABM Treaty. (Note that the United States had decided to adopt the Russian name, or GPS). The most important Ross-Mamedov session was probably that of September 1992. At that meeting, on behalf of the United States, I presented the case to the Russian delegation for amending the ABM Treaty. Ambassador Robert Joseph subsequently presented this proposal in its detail at the Standing Consultative Commission. The U.S. view was that circumstances have changed, politically and technologically, and that we now have an opportunity for a new relationship. An important part of this relationship is rethinking the question of whether we should begin cooperating In defending both of our populations, rather than collaborating to maximize their vulnerability. We talked about what we thought needed to be done about early warning, technology cooperation, and nonproliferation. We accepted and emphasized a multifaceted approach to the problem. We made clear that defenses would play an important role in thc future, and we made specific proposals to amend the ABM Treaty. We proposed that it permit more than the 200 interceptors that were permitted by the original ABM Treaty. As I highlighted in my remarks at the time, the ABM Treaty does not ban defenses. In fact, it explicitly provides, as signed in 1972, for 200 interceptors, plus additional test sites. Thus, in its original form it already envisioned as many as perhaps four or more places where a country might have interceptors, although only two of those were to be operational deployment sites. We talked about the changes in technology which made it increasingly difficult to maintain distinctions between early warning, command and control, surface-to-air missiles and theater ATBMs on the one hand and similar ABM systems on the other hand. We stressed the need to look at the whole--at what a BMD system really is. The inevitable increase in the capabilities of non-ABM systems was feeding ever more contentious debates over distinctions that were also very difficult to verify. The electronics revolution is radically altering the meaning of many of the boundaries sought by the ABM Treaty. This led the United States to propose that sensors run free--that we would agree that with respect to sensors, since they're so important for so may vital functions such as early warning, national technical means of verification, and conventional forces, not to make them an issue between us. With respect to numbers, of course we had a position proposing several hundred ground based interceptors. I should note that Russia has 100 interceptors already while the United States has none. The United States was willing to forego a decision on the question of space-based interceptors, if we achieved an agreement for near term ground-based systems along our line of several hundred--maybe six, seven, eight hundred--not that far from the Russian number which was 100 and not far from the 200 permitted by the ABM Treaty in 1972. So in a sense, we were haggling about the numbers, although we had in mind a certain level of effectiveness that we wanted to achieve by the technologies that we had available. That level of effectiveness seemed compatible also with the Russian concept of a Global Protective System. Discussion of amending the ABM Treaty was complicated also by the changes in the political circumstances of that time. One signatory to the bilateral treaty, the Soviet Union was gone, and the existing ABM system of the former Soviet Union no longer was solely within the sovereign bounds of a single country. There were a series of basic fixes to the ABM Treaty that we thought would be necessary to make it viable and effective, and our position was that we were prepared to do this, in the context of getting an agreement on defenses that was in the interest of both sides. This history demonstrates that the United States did engage very specifically on how to work together with Russia in the context of the ABM Treaty. Circumstances had changed. The ABM Treaty was broken, but the United States was prepared to agree to fix it if in the context of cooperation on defenses. defenses and further offensive reductions: the legacy of reykjavik Permit me now to jump to the future. Increasingly, as we approach the millennium, in the context of the NFI extension, we are hearing more and more about attempting to go to zero nuclear warheads, or to very low numbers. And emerging again and again in the debate, and not on a partisan or ideological basis, is the view that you cannot go to deep reductions without defenses. This was actually one of the key issues at Reykjavik, and what the debate over what was proposed at Reykjavik was really all about. We have already given much thought about the offense-defense relationship, but we need to get beyond frozen positions. I have tried to give you a sense of some of the key initiatives from the past which were designed to get us beyond stalemate. Today, as we try to go beyond linear thinking about how you safely move towards further reductions, traditional patterns of partisan politics and ideological splits are starting to fragment. So, perhaps it would be a good idea if everyone engaged on the issue of the offense-defense relationship revisit the question through a fresh process. We should revisit our assumptions, determine the real constants and variables for our age, and think anew. To do that, we will have to put aside our current mindsets, our current coalitions, and our current interest groups to determine if there isn't a path which brings us together. current trends: four assertions With this discussion of past and future as a foundation, let me turn to the question of the present just briefly. It isn't my primary focus, but I want to make four assertions about the present in reaction to what I have heard here and in Moscow recently. These are four assertions you can accept or reject. First, if it were left to the U.S. and Russian military, START II would have entered into force already. Second, if available material resources, i.e., budgets, were comparable on both sides, the ABM Treaty would not be as big an issue as it is today. There is actually a strong latent view within Russia that it ought to have defenses against ballistic missiles. In fact, they do. They have 100 ABM interceptors. Third, unfortunately--and I hope not increasingly, many of the issues that are being raised about START II and the ABM Treaty are really being used as vehicles for expressing uncertainty about the geo- strategic future, uncertainty about where we, the United States and Russia, are in our relationship to each other. This includes also uncertainty about where we think we ought to be. We need to answer the question of what it means to say the Cold War is over. Fourth, the substantive uncertainties about the ABM Treaty or START II are really being greatly amplified by contextual uncertainties, most of them of a domestic political nature. We have important new or reinvented players in Washington and Moscow. Some of them know these issues well, but many do not. There is a tendency to see many decisions made on the basis of a simple interrogation: ``If my domestic opponent is in favor of it, I must be against it,'' or vice versa. We have a similar problem on the international front to which I alluded earlier; namely, that whatever you think of the arguments on their merits, the legacy of the ABM Treaty and the legacy of Cold War deterrence debate are giving us vocabulary that is not always helpful, as we try to discuss a proper U.S.-Soviet relationship. In a way, our very words, including words I've used today such as a ``mutual hostage relationship,'' poison the water. We need fresh language reflecting our real objectives, language which doesn't carry so much baggage. We're experiencing manifestations of the ``Ifft rule.'' Ed Ifft is famous for saying, ``it's not that our positions are different, its that they're the same at different times.'' Some believe that this is a description of a fickle or frivolous basis for negotiations. I don't interpret the rule that way. Rather, it reflects the reality that as circumstances change, what we should do can change. If you go back to the mid-1980s, for example, the Soviet Union put out many feelers to see if we would be willing to settle the ABM dispute by agreeing to 200 ground based interceptors--or 300, or 400. And it was in the United States that voices said, ``Wait a minute, we'll never get an environmental impact statement through. Our future is in space. This is a Soviet trap to get us to try to deploy some missiles that we can't deploy politically while they build a large ground based system. We will lose.'' Our positions have been the same at different times, but there remains in the domestic debate today in Russia and the United States, the Cold War remnant of, ``if it's good for the other side, it must be bad for us.'' Again, we need to find a way to break out of that mindset. start ii compromises When I first became active in arms control negotiations, the one fundamental rule about domestic politics was that you never took a treaty to Capitol Hill in election year. But in 1987, we broke the rule. It wasn't all that easy, but it wasn't all that hard. We got the INF Treaty ratified. Here we are again, in a much more difficult world, in the middle of an election year in Russia as well as in the United States. And friends of mine in Russia say to me, ``Well the problem is that START II was negotiated from weakness, and our side gave too much to you.'' I remember it a little differently, however. In fact, I remember how much we gave to the Russian side that would have been unthinkable in previous years. I think about the separate SLBM limit that we'd never agreed to before, the bomber counting rules which reversed a fundamental U.S. approach to stability. I think of the intrusive inspection of bomber bases and special limits on bombers, and how, again and again, on issues like the SS-19, silos dismantlement, and simplified verification we allowed issues to be reopened in order to address Russian concerns. We used to say there could not be further reductions until after START I had entered into force and after vast new improvements in verification were achieved. Instead, at Russian insistence, we agreed to act almost instantaneously on START II and, basically, to use the START I verification rules. It was in the interests of both countries for us to exhibit this flexibility, but these concessions, or compromises, or flexibility by the United States, would not have taken place in fact, if the situation had not changed in Russia. If the previous regime had been in power in Moscow, we probably never would have shown that flexibility. There probably would not have been a START II Treaty. So, when you think about the START II Treaty, remember that the United States was actually very forthcming. We thought it was important to a new, better relationship. And if we were wrong, that's going to have tremendous impact at home and abroad. Yes, Russia is having an electon, but so is the United States. In this election year, both sides need to be very, very careful. To our Russia colleagues, I would say don't ask our president to go to the Congress and to look as if he's cutting deals with a foreign government blocking the aspirations of the elected officials of the United States. The Congress expects the president to come to them and to work out a united U.S. position. The Congress expects him to work together during negotiation of that position. Neither Russia nor the United States will gain from an end run of their own political processes. At a minimum, there must be a very close consultative process. recommendations What is my recommendation? I think we need to do some rethinking in a less polarized way that brings all the player, including some new players, to this process. There are certain things that our countries have agreed already to do. Let's do them. START II is, I think, essential. If we want to keep our relationship on track, moving in the right direction, START II must enter into force. We can and should, however, commit to a fresh look at the questions related to offenses and defenses. This probably ought to be done after both countries' elections. This new process probably ought not be a negotiation initially, or a formal government-to-government process by itself. It may require a Track II process, and it should have a certain number of legislators from the United States and Russia. An informal process--perhaps initially off the record and anonymous--is necessary. Opinion leaders with diverse views must rethink these questions of what we mean by ``the end of the Cold War'' and what we should do about offense and defense after the Cold War. How do we think about balancing weapons if the Cold War is really over, and how do we get beyond that? If we can't do that, we're in for trouble. a prediction Now, let me make one prediction about the future. My own view is that further defenses will be deployed. They're already deployed in Russia. They will be deployed in the United States. Putting together the coalition necessary will take longer than advocates recommend, and this will continue to result in greater development costs. The operational system itself, however, will inevitably cost less, not more than has long been assumed. National missile defense will cost less than what many people think because smaller threats are of increasing urgency and because dual-use technologies which leverage defense are advancing. The world of electronics is going in a direction that drives many defense associated costs down. The decision to deploy nationwide defenses, however, will not be made in Moscow or Washington based upon an accountant's estimate of affordability. It will be made when citizens demand that they be defended. The event that will probably cause this to happen may not even have anything to do with Russia, and it may not be based on an initial threat against the United States. It may well be that theater ballistic missiles, armed with a weapon of mass destruction, strikes someone else's forces or cities. The world will suddenly change the way it evaluates this equation. Much of the current debate will be washed aside by the force of events. Defenses are not an alternative to a multifaceted approach including reductions, nonproliferation, and controlling smuggling, but my own assessment is that we will be living for some time in a world in which a multifaceted approach is not a substitute for defenses against ballistic missiles. I believe that a new look undertaken without the blinders of past political divisions will reveal that cooperating in defending the people of Russia and the United States against ballistic missiles will be seen as necessary for the security of both and a powerful foundation upon which to build a more viably arms control and non-proliferation regime. Senator Hagel. General Habiger. STATEMENT OF GENERAL EUGENE E. HABIGER, FORMER COMMANDER IN CHIEF, U.S. STRATEGIC COMMAND, OMAHA, NE General Habiger. Mr. Chairman, Senator Biden, thank you very much for the opportunity to come to speak before this committee. First, let me tell you that in the 10 months that it has been since I furled my flag and put on this civilian suit, my views have not changed materially in this area. The most significant change in my views has to do with the deployment of the missile defense system. I was always under the inclination that we needed the system. It was not a matter of if we needed it but when we needed it. But based upon the publication of the Rumsfeld report since I retired, it has turned up certainly the wick in my view that we ought to deploy that system sooner rather than later. I would like to make two points, if I could, sir. First, regarding the cold war and the series of situations that we have got ourselves into now as a result of that cold war and how it ended: The cold war was a unique war. It lasted over 40 years. We had never experienced a conflict that lasted nearly that long. And the loser really did not lose. If you look at what we did to the Germans after World War I, what we did to the Germans and Japanese after World War II, we essentially demilitarized them. After the cold war ended, we essentially let the Russians stay at their current--at then current nuclear levels of about 12,000 nuclear weapons. So what we had at the end of the cold war was essentially two eight-foot-tall boxers fully primed to beat the living daylights out of each other, and they agreed to stand down. Now, we have been on a very stable glide path with arms control agreements to get down to new levels of nuclear weapons, which is the right thing to do. Hopefully, the Russians will, at some point in the not-too- distant future, ratify START II, and we can get on with START III. And I will tell you the Russians are very interested in getting down to START IV levels. The Russians have done the math, and they understand that when you get to the START IV levels, whatever those levels are going to be, it then must become a multilateral effort rather than a bilateral effort, and that is going to be a much more difficult situation. With my experience with the Russians and the confidence building over the past several years. I began my contacts with the Russians back in 1992 when the chief of staff of the Russian Air Force, came to Texas where I was stationed. I got to know him very well. The Russian military folks at the senior levels are very professional. They are very serious about what they are doing. They are also very paranoid about both our military capabilities, and our technological capabilities. And if we were to go out and walk away from the ABM Treaty, we would do great harm in my view. I agree with what Secretary Lehman said about pursuing initiatives with the Russians. I think there is great potential in this area. The next point I would make, and my final point, is that we will in fact need a ballistic missile defense system. But it appears to me that we are myopic in our thinking if we assume that it has to be a national system. If you look back at how we have treated our allies, the English, the Germans, the Japanese, I think we ought to--as Secretary Lehman just described, be looking at more of a global defensive system. I have every confidence the Russians would step up to that kind of an approach, and would also position us to not only look at the three or four rogue nations that we see on the horizon today, but the potential for other nations in the future. For example--I am not saying that India is a rogue nation, but they are rapidly pursuing a capability. Pakistanis are producing the capability. And--and who is to say that 50 years from now that we might have to look to--to the south against potential nations with these kinds of capabilities? So, sir, it is with that that I make my opening statement. I look forward to your questions. Thank you. Senator Hagel. General, thank you. Dr. Payne. STATEMENT OF DR. KEITH PAYNE, PRESIDENT AND DIRECTOR OF RESEARCH, NATIONAL INSTITUTE FOR PUBLIC POLICY; AND ADJUNCT PROFESSOR, GEORGETOWN UNIVERSITY, WASHINGTON, DC Dr. Payne. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It is a pleasure and a great honor to be here, particularly serving with these esteemed colleagues at the table. I would like to summarize my opening statement and submit the full statement for the record. Senator Hagel. It will be included. Dr. Payne. Thank you. Mr. Chairman, I have spent several years closely examining the Senate record to identify the rationale for the ABM Treaty as it was presented to the Senate in 1972. And it is on the basis of that study that one can conclude that the treaty was built on particular arms control and deterrence theories circa 1972. Now, 27 years later it is clear that those theories were thoroughly mistaken. Many are reluctant to acknowledge these mistakes, perhaps because so much political and intellectual capital has been invested in the ABM Treaty. Some are not reluctant. But we should cease being influenced by theories that have so little validity. The ABM Treaty, for example, was ratified on the premise that strictly limiting national missile defense would lead to stabilizing offensive force reductions. Arms control theory at the time posited that if national missile defense was limited, reductions in Soviet ICBM's would be forthcoming because the Soviet Union would not need to penetrate U.S. defenses and, therefore, could agree to reductions. In short, the theory was: No ABM Treaty, no offensive force reductions. But with the ABM Treaty, stabilizing offensive force reductions. While seeking the Senate's advice and consent on the ABM Treaty, Nixon administration officials were specific about this expected benefit of limiting national missile defense. Indeed, it became the primary justification for the treaty. For example, in 1972, Henry Kissinger testified before the Senate that, and I quote, ``As long as the ABM Treaty lasts, offensive missile forces have, in effect, a free ride to their targets.'' That free ride for Soviet missiles was considered useful as a necessary basis for negotiating offensive arms reductions. Unfortunately, the expected benefit never was realized. In fact, history unfolded in the opposite direction. For two decades following the ABM Treaty, the Soviet Union pursued a massive buildup of destabilizing ICBM's capable of threatening U.S. strategic deterrent forces. To be specific, the number of such deployed Soviet ICBM's increased from 308 in 1972 to over 650 16 years later, with a related increase in the number of Soviet countersilo warheads from--from roughly 300 to well over 5,000. As a result, U.S. ICBM's became vulnerable to a Soviet preemptive strike. The Scowcroft Commission, on which Ambassador Woolsey served, for example, judged U.S. ICBM silos to be vulnerable in 1983 as a result of this Soviet offensive buildup. This Soviet buildup was precisely what arms control theory predicted the ABM Treaty would preclude. It was entirely contrary to the confident expectations that justified the treaty. Such a confounding of expectations was predicted at the time by very few prescient critics of the ABM Treaty. Other related arms control claims for the ABM Treaty similarly went unrealized. For example, during the Senate hearings in 1972, senior officials claimed that the treaty reflected Soviet acceptance of the U.S. concept of mutual deterrence through mutual vulnerability. The validity of that claim for the ABM Treaty was important because it meant that neither side would seek to upset the supposed deterrence balance established by the treaty. Now, however, former senior Soviet officials have explained repeatedly and at length that the ABM Treaty did not reflect Soviet acceptance of our notions of deterrence through mutual vulnerability. Far from it. For the Soviet Union, the ABM Treaty represented a tactical move to derail U.S. superiority in missile defense technology and to permit the Soviet Union to concentrate its resources on its strategic offensive buildup. That is not my interpretation. That is the testimony of senior Soviet officials. In complete contradiction to arms control theory, the ABM Treaty appears actually to have facilitated the Soviet offensive missile buildup of the seventies and the eighties that led to the vulnerability of our retaliatory forces. The optimistic expectations used to justify the ABM Treaty went unmet. I believe because the U.S. arms control theory ultimately was based on ``mirror-imaging,'' it mistakenly attributed U.S. goals and hopes to the Soviet Union. Ironically, when Boris Yeltsin finally endorsed START offensive reductions in 1992, he simultaneously proposed U.S.- Russian cooperation on a global ballistic missile defense system. That is, President Yeltsin proposed that offensive reductions and missile defense move forward together. And even now, key members of the Russian Duma publicly and privately advocate cooperating with Washington on limited NMD deployment as the route necessary to preserve the START process. In short, with 27 years of hindsight, it is now possible to conclude, based on abundant empirical evidence, that the arms control theory underlying the ABM Treaty was mistaken at its foundation. The deterrence theory underlying the ABM Treaty was similarly mistaken. The deterrence argument justifying the treaty in 1972 was that mutual deterrence would provide reliable protection against missile attack, while missile defense would undermine deterrence and not protect adequately. Therefore, so the argument concluded, the United States should focus on mutual deterrence as the preferred alternative to national missile defense. This line of reasoning was prevalent during the original Senate ABM Treaty hearings and remains a commonly expressed view. It was plausible in 1972. To repeat it now reflects a complete lack of familiarity with almost two decades of scholarly research concerning deterrence. I can summarize those findings in one sentence: Deterrence is inherently unreliable for reasons that cannot humanly be fixed. Many U.S. officials and commentators continue to assert otherwise. They typically express confidence that the absence of a third world war proves that deterrence can be made reliable. Perhaps, it is enough to note in response to such hubris that similar confidence in deterrence became popular during the decades of peace following the Franco-Prussian War in 1871. Unfortunately, such confidence came to a quick end with the outbreak of World War I in the summer of 1914. I have closely examined actual historical cases of deterrence and coercion over the course of many years--in fact, going back 2,000 years. My findings and those of similar empirical studies are that deterrence fails with some frequency because flesh and blood leaders do not consistently behave in the manner required by deterrence theory. Unlike the leaders typically assumed in theory, real leaders can be uninformed and misinformed, isolated and out-of- touch. They can make terrible mistakes. They can behave willfully, foolishly, emotionally, unpredictably, unreasonably and even irrationally. They may not prefer a conflict, but they may see no acceptable alternative; or they may have goals for which they are willing to lead their societies into great sacrifice and great risk. Unfortunately, there are no earthly developments that can reliably prevent these very real and very human factors from undermining deterrence. And we should recognize this danger. We were, for example, very fortunate to have made it through the cold war, a conclusion now shared by former U.S. officials who were involved in the 1962 Cuban missile crisis and have had the opportunity to compare notes with their Cuban and Russian counterparts. The finding that a strategy of deterrence is inherently unreliable does not mean that deterrence is useless. Far from it. But it does suggest strongly that to choose to remain vulnerable to countries such as North Korea, on the basis of confidence in deterrence, would be to thoroughly misunderstand what deterrence can and cannot accomplish. In conclusion, the ABM Treaty was built on arms control and deterrence theories that now can be demonstrated empirically to be mistaken. The ABM Treaty did not facilitate the promised offensive force reductions. And contrary to all comforting assurances, deterrence is inherently unreliable. Its functioning cannot be ensured or even predicted with any confidence. Serious empirical research on the subject allows no other conclusion. I believe that this fact alone, in light of the pace of proliferation, argues strongly for NMD deployment if the necessary technology is available. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Senator Hagel. Dr. Payne, thank you. [The prepared statement of Dr. Payne follows:] Prepared Statement of Dr. Keith B. Payne introduction It is a great honor to address here two questions crucial to consideration of national missile defense (NMD): First, how valid is the arms control theory underlying the 1972 ABM Treaty?; and, second, is the mutual vulnerability approach to deterrence in the U.S. national interest? The ABM Treaty was built on particular arms control and deterrence theories. It now is clear that those theories were thoroughly mistaken. Many are reluctant to acknowledge these flaws, perhaps because so much political and intellectual capital has been invested in the ABM Treaty. But we should cease being influenced by theories that have so little validity. the abm treaty and arms control theory The ABM Treaty, for example, was ratified on the premise that strictly limiting NMD would lead to ``stabilizing'' offensive force reductions. Arms control theory at the time posited that if NMD was limited, reductions in Soviet ICBMs would be forthcoming because the Soviet Union would not need to penetrate U.S. defenses and therefore could agree to reductions. In short, the theory was: no ABM Treaty, no offensive force limitations; with the ABM Treaty, ``stabilizing'' offensive force reductions. While seeking the Senate's advice and consent for the ABM Treaty. Nixon administration officials were specific about this expected benefit of limiting NMD; indeed, it became the primary justification for the treaty. For example, in 1972 Henry Kissinger testified before the Senate that, ``As long as [the ABM Treaty] lasts, offensive missile forces have, in effect, a free ride to their targets.'' \1\ This ``free ride'' for Soviet missiles was considered useful as the necessary basis for negotiating offensive arms reductions. Unfortunately, the expected benefit never was realized; in fact, history unfolded in the opposite direction. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ Military Implication of the Treaty on the Limitations of Anti- Ballistic Missile Systems and the Interim Agreement on Limitation of Strategic Offensive Arms, Hearing Before the Committee on Armed Forces, United States Senate, 92nd Congress, 2nd Session (Washington, D.C.: U.S. GPO, 1972), P. 121. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- For the two decades following the ABM Treaty, the Soviet Union pursued a massive buildup of ``destabilizing'' ICBMs capable of threatening U.S. strategic deterrent forces. To be specific, the number of such deployed Soviet ICBMs increased from 308 in 1972 to over 650 sixteen years later, with a related increase in the number of Soviet countersilo warheads from roughly 300 to well over 5,000. \2\ As a result, U.S. ICBMs became vulnerable to a Soviet pre-emptive strike. The ``Scowcroft Commission,'' for example, judged U.S. ICBM silos to be vulnerable by 1983 as a result of this Soviet offensive buildup: ``The Soviets nevertheless now probably possess the necessary combination of ICBM numbers, reliability, accuracy, and warhead yield to destroy almost all of the 1,047 U.S. ICBM silos, using only a portion of their own ICBM force.'' \3\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \2\ These statistics concerning Soviet strategic weapons are found in John Collins and Bernard Victory, U.S/Soviet Military Balance, Statistical Trends, 1980-1987, Report No. 88-425 S (Washington, D.C.: Congressional Research Service, April 15, 1988); and John Collins and Patrick Cronin, U.S./Soviet Military Balance, Assessments and Statistic, Report No. 85-89 S (Washington, D.C.: Congressional Research Service, Spring 1985). \3\ See Report of the President's Commission on Strategic Forces (the Scowcroft Report) (Washington, D.C.: April 6, 1983), p. 4. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This Soviet buildup was precisely what arms control theory predicted the ABM Treaty would preclude; it was entirely contrary to the confident expectations that justified the treaty. Such a confounding of expectations was predicted at the time by very few prescient critics of the ABM Treaty.\4\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \4\ Several participants in the SALT I process were accurate in their relatively pessimistic estimates of what would occur over the next fifteen years. See, for example, William Van Cleave's testimony in Military Implications, pp. 569-92. See also, Don Brennan, ``When the SALT Hit the Fan,'' National Review, June 1972, pp. 685-92; and Mark Schneider, ``Problems of SALT: 1972,'' Survive, July/August 1972, pp. 2-6. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other related arms control claims for the ABM Treaty similarly went unrealized. For example, during Senate hearings in 1972 senior officials claimed that the treaty reflected Soviet acceptance of the U.S. concept of mutual deterrence through mutual vulnerability. As Secretary of State William Rogers stated before the Senate: ``This [ABM Treaty] is a general undertaking of utmost significance. Without a nationwide ABM defense, there can be no shield against retaliation. Both nuclear powers have recognized, and in effect agreed to maintain nuclear deterrence.'' \5\ The validity of this claim was critical for the ABM Treaty because it meant that neither side would seek to upset the supposed deterrence balance established by the treaty. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \5\ Secretary of State William Rogers, Statement to Senate Foreign Relations Committee, June 19, 1972, quoted in, SALT I Reconsidered (Washington, D.C.: Institute of American Relations, 1979), p. 99. ----------------------------------------------------